ColinMills

spedeworth trounce speedway, yet get very little coverage..it seems if you are interested you will find what you are looking for

absolutely. british final ruined too, come 6th on 9 points and still win! Tai winning last grand prix just the same...lets all turn up for the last heat, that's all that seems to matters!!

that's exactly the attitude the promoters hold

once you miss a few weeks, you will never return, you end up following it online, tv etc, but you just do other things. Speedway simply fail to attract youngsters, and the old guard has just given up on stupid rules..doubling up killed it for me, ridiculous!

and I believe I have said a dozen times, I believe tai is the best ever "british" rider....I can fully agree with you on that...

good can agree has no bearing...you and your shadow like FACTS.... Tai is on par with Nicki FACT Mauger/Ricko 6....Tai 3 best ever equals Mauger RICKO,,,, is tai better than nicki should be your current "discussion"

and bunyan won 10 what you trying to prove? now you bringing age into it, make up your mind what this thread is about.....6-3 simple

he was in 70, 71, 72 as BRITISH CHAMPION....SO is this thread best ever or what? 6-3 again simple!

but the thread is he best ever? 6 world titles to 3...equals...no...not yet..simple

john louis hadn't started til 28.....look what he achieved!.....no, not compering him with Tai.. but if you believe Tai better than Mauger (at the moment)...3 2 1, back in the room!

well that's OBVIOUS! thread ends!!

well to answer the title of the thread...BEST EVER....mauger / ricko

and once again you say its an "argument" I not arguing with anyone, im disagreeing with you

not worth it mate....they think mauger had luck to win 6 times, nothing to do with talent

the product is wrong, as stated earlier, why pay more to watch worse riders? doubling up is beyond the joke, no crowd pullers, same riders different race jackets

I think its relevant in terms of the future of the sport. if you have a ENGLISH world champion, and kids don't know him, its not bright. but take your point its off thread

YOU brought up "old fossils" not me...had you the decency to not be rude I would of politely answered you...those statements add nothing to debate..FACT

these "old fossils" have seen both, they have a view on both, and may I say, if it wasn't without these "old fossils" speedway wouldn't exist today!...I don't see youngsters rushing through turnstiles, I don't hear school kids talking bout Tai Woffinden walking home from school, im all for discussion, but name calling is something different

I think that's why this discussion is going on a bit, simply because, quite rightly, opinions are split. its very hard to say something is factual when the sport today, is totally different to that of yesteryear.

very true, im sure it will be close and entertaining. but I guess some poole fans must think "I paid less to watch ricko, loram, crump etc"

Whilst I expect this to be close, those line ups show the decline in a "top flight" play off fixture

is there something about your discussion that HAS to be factual? comparisns, viewpoints, discussion seems pointless? you appear to think EVERYTHING you say is factual...its actually NOT. not everything is "argument"..i clearly may of been wrong about certain things, but its impossible to compare todays riders to the past, its totally different from every aspect, machinery, finances, rules, track surfaces, the list is endless...Jason Bunyan was New Zealand champion 10 times, is it a FACT, hes best ever New Zealand rider? these other posters DO KNOW what they are on about, they just have a different OPINION

yes you are "allowed" a slip up....one off, it had to be nailed on, mechanic wise, rider wise, pressure wise

nail on head with british title....soo weak nowadays, would never got a second tier rider near Coventry in 70s

there was a couple of stupid gp years where you packed up if third/fourth in first two rides, was also a time where you kept gate one..some GP rules been ridiculous