Big Al

.....exactly, and still be entitled to charge a loan fee!!

Yet on the two occasions Sky has broadcast from Beaumont Park, the track has been quite different from usual (some would say Doctored), with accompanying increase in the number of incidents/near-incidents. I think also on both occasions the match in question has been timed to take place during a busy period of televised speedway (some would say hidden away within the schedules). Ypu can understand Sky's reluctance to cover Leicester away matches, so far, but at home the match result is usually fairly or very close (no one-sided blowouts except when Mr Zagar's in the away team!). So why the reluctance?

I think if an asset system has to exist, there needs to be a requirement that unless the "owning" club employs the rider within a declared team, within (say) a two-year period, the rider ceases to be an asset of that club. Any period when the rider is injured, would be added on to the two years. But overall I'd be surprised if the asset system is lawful now, so better if it gets aboloshed.

Tut tut GRW. It'll be the Headmaster's office for you if you're not more careful.;-)

Well if they are playing those sort of games, it can't be exactly making Leicester popular with other promoters and among riders! And then there's the Doyle "transfer" saga. Getting a reputation as duckers and divers is possibly not helping much in the team buidling difficulties?? I bet some of them now think of Leicester as some guest they asked to their party, but turns up without bringing any food or booze and eats and drinks everyone else's, then makes derogatory comments about it.

Fair point though. Who can you trust? Not many, if the past two seasons is anything to judge by. The two Poles have now proved their loyalty, but anyone new, who isn't based in the UK, there's always going to be that element of uncertainty. Swindons team is now 100% UK -based. Others are majority Uk-based and where there are 2 or more non-UK's (Wolves) the riders involved have a good record of loyalty either with that club or recently at other clubs.So for Leicester the likes of Stead, Lawson, Barker, Summers, Fisher are probably the best bets to avoid the disruptions of the past two seasons from happening all over again.

Its just so bleeding simple and obvious that it's painful. Has been all along. Elite league on Saturday is a no-go. Premier league on Saturday is workable. Best day for speedway in Leicester is Saturday. Friday could be ok, but there are issues with that, so it's not an option at present anyway. The track is dire and needs to be changed, not just altered. It's not complicated, is it?

.....ok, but people have been known to change their minds if they are asked a second time, and even a third time. Not over till the fat lady sings and all that.

Auty and Starke must be feeling a bit uncomfortable at the moment? There are still a couple of vacancies at 6 and 7 elsewhere i think. If i were them i'd be making enquiries.

As it looks a case of mostly handbags at five paces on here at the moment, as the starter of this thread whose post you referred to, I will do my best to give your post the response it deserves although I suppose that only an official club spokesperson can provide the definitive answer!So instead of that, my guess, probably wildly wrong. That statement in the Poole programme just increased the already high level of "endearment" of DH among fellow promoters,adding to the previous instances such as his public criticism of the KL track, the niggles with Swindon over match fixture dates, the Doyle non-transfer saga, his team manager's public outburst against the BSPA management committee and possibly many more who knows. The other promoters may be wishing they had not admitted Leicester into the league, with their poor teams, dire track,adherence to unpopular (with the other teams and riders) Saturdays race night, and a promoter who thinks he can tell them how to run the whole show when he's not exactly brilliant at running his own. So I'd not be surprised if he's now about as popular as Denis Neilsen turning up at a bring your own food party and that his "ideas" aren't being given any consideration. But I could be wrong of course.

Sadly, I suspect Magnus and Nemo are well past thier best now and would'nt be interested anyway. There must be a better bet as a double-upper out there than Barker? He'd be a lot better at somewhere like Swindon.

PS Anyway it might be Batchelor, so that will be all right

How did Johansson get into the GP's? Can't recall which route he used but i bet he wont be back anytime soon. Barker and Beaumont Park are as compatible as Prince Charles and Diana Spencer. Beckett - your suggested line up is too reminiscent of the Birmingham team which started the 2014 season. Auty would be at no.1 before the end of April if they stick with the daft plan to keep the current heats format. It's deja vu all over again, but as you say what is the alternative......

This is all a wind-up, isn't it? Surely nobody could be that stupid? Could they?

Maybe, but what if during the two years in the EL, he/Leicester have become as unpopular among fellow promoters as a fart in an astronaut's space-suit?

Two catastrophic mistakes.(probably many other mistakes but these are the worst) Design of the track, and going into the EL at the wrong time. From what I've heard and read, both could have been avoided if David Hemsley had listened to the wise advice being offered and followed it. But if things do fall apart, then he will be blaming everyone else for it, including Santa Claus and the Fairies in hiis garden.

If you think that came across as bitter, you should have heard him on the radio. That piece on speedwaygb might have been produced by Alan Jones as a media release on DH's behalf - so it will be the toned-down version

There is something quite disturbing in all of this, and that is the state of mind of David Hemsley himself. I'm now saying this primarily out of concern for the well-being of another human. But also the effect it is probably having on others, and the speedway club whose existence we all value at various levels and in different ways. His interview yesterday on RL was alarming in terms of how he came across and the possible underlying state of mind. I would have a bet that (and this is based on his various media outputs over the years and over-hearing him talking to other people) if he were to be assessed professionally, a clinician would identify strong delusional and narcissistic traits, maybe coupled with tendencies for paranoia and other conditions. There have been many examples of delusions, which could well be of a fixed nature from what is being stated elsewhere on this thread. Delusion (beginning to break) that because he has re-created Leicester Speedway (in his image?), and then taken it into the Elite League, he will be bestowed with all of the "just rewards" he thinks that he should be entitled to receive. Delusion (probably still intact) that his track produces entertaining racing. Delusion (now broken) that Jason Doyle would stay loyal to him despite what he had been told Delusion (broken now, I think) that the world's best riders are interested in coming to work for him I can't help but think that the other promoters have been well aware of this for some time. There must be serious concern among them, especially the EL ones, about Leicester's future as the truth starts to dawn. That in turn may put the league itself in jeopardy (but some would say that it needs to be killed-off anyway - maybe its now non-viable as a credible product even with only 7 teams such is the dearth of riders of suitable quality who are prepared to take part in it). When you see somebody's delusions start to become broken, is the time to start to get concerned about them. I just hope, for the guy's sake, that people who are close to him can provide the help that he might need and pick up any pieces if it becomes necessary.

Basically saying Doyle has betrayed him and that there was an" agreement" with Jason that he would do four years with Leicester after sorting out his visa issues. Generally having a go at disloyalty of riders (promoters are never disloyal to riders are they!!). I got the feeling he is not prepared to consider (and never has done) moving the race night to thursday. Mumbled about having to find riders but big problem with them not wanting to race in UK on Saturdays (no s**t, Einstein) so just sounded gloomy. Overall, it came across as "they've all got it in for me" and delusion that everything ought to revolve around Leicester speedway.

Easy come.......easy go.....

Basically, yes he does. Doesn't own the land though. That's owned by the City council, leased to another company DH owns although the speedway company seems to deal directly with the council.

So....harking back to the first post on this thread, has Buster Chapman's election as the new BSPA chief and other elections been developments which David Hemsley views positively or not in terms of what he was wanting (whatever that was). Chapmans has already been talking about the need to ensure the entertainment served up is good value for money, and to have fixed race nights in the future (2017 onwards) - which for sure won't be Saturdays in the Elite league. This is the same Buster Chapman whose track was openly criticised by David Hemsley last year, for not being a racing track!! M

Has any info been released about replacing the "draft/protected" riders when they get injured? Will any guest replacement be limited to the Tier 1, or will any guest now be allowed as long as the rider has the right average? I love riders who "get stuck in" -- but Auty's style of riding probably makes him more prone to injury than the average rider (including retribution dished out by other riders!). I sincerely hope Auty has a full season without injury, but i think the guest replacement system to be used could be vital for Leicester.

Now that it looks as if there's no limits on age and previous experience for the Fast Track eligibility, I hear Les Collins is being lined-up by Leicester to be named at No.6

Why am I getting a strong feeling this is all going to be a total dogs breakfast? I'd get some 13 year old to hack into the database and reveal these sacred "lists", but i think its more likely they've been scribbled down on the back on a couple of used envelopes.