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The racing would be rubbish for the most part with a lack of competitive races which would be enough to lose even more fans never mind attract newbies talk about killing two birds with one stone

Most on here don’t want one league but admittedly a good number want there cake and eat it. Reality. One league 7 man teams racing on their chosen race night or fixed Monday & Thursdays equals a league of eight- unless lineups feature lads who can’t even make reserve spots in the championship and the team building average is lowered to thirty six - then we might get nine teams with racing being rank boring for the large part.

You’re correct they pay in excess of £16k per match. And attendance is growing year on year

Because unfortunately. There are insufficient number of riders to make 14 team’s viably competitive. There is no willingness to adopt a team structure different to the current 7 man teams. Teams will not agree to race on restricted nights. Their night or no night (they should be careful what they wish for It is not desirable by the BSPL to only have one league of eight teams.

So, as it appears most Championship clubs run profitably throughout the season using the majority of riders who ride in the loss making Premiership. Maybe the Championship clubs should underwrite any potential losses of the team stepping up to the Premiership in order to keep open their source of affordable riders.

And if there was to be no prem or champ leagues but a third “hybrid” that the club he signed for was not a part of? Or that the club deemed him surplus to requirements?

The UK hockey Elite League has fully professional players being paid on average citcs 40k per season. Match day squads are limited to 20 players from a full roster of 25. The average total cost for players is circa £900k over a 26 week regular season meaning an average weekly squad cost of 36k However those figures are averages Imported foreign players are paid in a range of between 70k - 120k (so up to £4k per week) with the majority of British players earning an average of 25k On top of that there are bonuses paid based on performance. As well as accommodation, transport including air fares (for foreign nationals) and university fees to name a few .

Folk on here for the large part appear not to grasp or at least wish to acknowledge Prem & Champ leagues are not individual entities but part of the BSPL. A workable solution needs to be found that represents the best interests of the collective BSPL. Should an impasse prevail and a solution to the current problems facing the prem cannot be agreed and implemented it would be a complete mistake to assume the consequences will only effect those clubs currently in the Prem as the implications will be far more reaching and severely impact most if not all champ clubs to (for some) oblivion.

I understand your sentiment. But since it adds nothing positive to the discussion even if it was bad news. Maybe best to leave posts relating to something that can’t be revealed until they can be?

It’s called an escrow account.

No as a Leicester supporter I would not be happy with a five team league and yes I want a Premier League although neither answer is a "must Have"

No point in posting your inside rumor is there. This whole forum is based on free thinking, rumor's conjecture and opinion. so why not spill the beans on the latest rumor.

The straightforward answer to your question is so to ensure there are sufficient riders doubling up with Prem & Champ teams to enable Championship clubs to be to afford riders and those same riders to have a reasonable income from their UK efforts.

Unfortunately, although you clearly mean well your suggestion just will not work due to a number of factors which are just not sustainable or deliverable. one being, a top league of eight teams will leave no riders to make up a second tier - thus at least no need to worry about the fixture chaos and the mass use of guests required.

There have been recently, quite few realistic posts made on this matter in particular the recognition of the number of competitive riders that are available for the existing teams to participate in two leagues or so long as the top league runs on Mondays & Thursday meaning that doubling up can facilitate a second tier for other clubs to compete in. However, when I read your suggestion of planning ahead for one league in 2027 I do wonder what it is that you don’t understand about rider availability & implications to a league structure. To be clear. one league removes doubling up meaning that even if the one league runs on Mondays & Thursdays there will be only seven or possibly eight teams around. I'm not sure that the instant culling of seven or eight of the existing clubs is what you want the BSPA to plan for in 2027 Is it? Please read the recent posts which detail the math of the situation which may help you grasp why two leagues are a key element of building a future for UK speedway - or if not seeing what could become a car crash.

No they can’t see it. Because at the moment the challenge they are facing is working out how all existing clubs can operate “successfully” in 2026. if you wanted a public statement - the best they could say is “We are not yet in a position to announce our plans for 2026 and will not do so until something is in place”. One could safely presume talks are ongoing..

Sadly, Birmingham would still have closed due to their stadium being demolished. As for Oxford, running three teams is also a drain on fans resources and a drain on the wallet to attend all meetings and so had to choose who to watch. although there must be some truth that a stronger first team could have seen improved attendances for the Spiers, its more than likely the fans chose to attend more meetings of the Cheetah's because they had the better home record of winning matches.

And he doubled up with a Prem team this year, who apparently he is leaving for 2026 and currently looking for another Prem team...so it will be interesting to see who he actually rides for if one league comes to fruition

No pictures needed, I would rather you realise that one (full time) league based on the current availability of riders can only work if doubling up was done away with and leaving sufficient number of riders for no more than 8 or at a squeeze 9 teams. For now, It doesn’t matter if current Premier or championship clubs make up the one league just that we all need to recognise the math & logistics which force the only possible outcome. It is also why one league will not happen in 2026 because too many promoters cannot think beyond their own self interest and thus block progress.

Not enough riders will be available to make one league unless of course the joke of doubling up is allowed to expand to allow riders to ride for two teams in the same division week in week out. Remember one league equals eight teams unless of course the totally ministering 6 man teams is adopted as the first ring of the UK death bells.

This is one hell of a post length wise - but please realign you’re thinking cap and recognise one league means that there will be only eight teams, who will have to ride on Mondays & Thursdays. Start your thinking there and decide which clubs will make the cut! BTW To save you further contemplating “what about the other clubs” the answer is part time development league (maybe individual meetings featuring top flight riders) or close.

This one league concept of 14 or so clubs keeps getting regurgitated together with what appears to be ignorance of a few immovable barriers. 1. one league means the removal of doubling up. 2. The league would need to hold meetings on quite a few nights other than Monday or Thursday. 3. All riders who currently ride in Poland will drop out of riding for UK teams. 4. Scandinavians will not be available to ride on Tuesday and Wednesdays. 5. The number of riders remaining to form a much watered down league (in terms of skill/ability) will will be sufficient to make no more than 7 or eight teams.

I wouldn’t want to condemn any. I am pointing out the math of the situation and the consequence of the current promoters failing to agree on a way forward.

The big problem has been that the Welsh tourist board withdrew its support of the event which provided for greatly discounted stadium costs.

Your were absolutely right with your prediction..... it was indeed "garbage" Hope you continue to have fun in your make believe world.