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Leicester vs Birmingham 26/03/2022 KoC 1st Round 1st Leg
1 valve replied to IainB's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
All being well, the Lions will progress to the next round & the Leicester fans will have another home meeting. -
Speedway supporters almost certainly agree that the two Russians involved in the GP series are innocent of any political views v the Ukraine. However, they are Russian and as per FIFA’s actions & that of F1 the speedway authorities must ensure there is zero inclusion of Russians on the global stage until Putin and his cronies are put firmly in the box they need to be sentenced too.
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Will people be able to afford to go
1 valve replied to bri1966's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
“Will people be able to afford to go” in short “yes” if they regard going to speedway meetings as something they want to do. Those promoters who do the right things to make people want to go have nothing to worry about. As for those who don’t do “the right thing” history shows they will find someone else to blame. -
Does anyone know/care/guess why the anticipated announcement this past Monday at 6pm as indicated by Tai W of who his 2nd team will be for 2022 didn't happen? - or have I missed it?
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Highest average at BV
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Number 8 for each team and Junior League
1 valve replied to Flappy's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Although the programmed 1-7 would still be required to take their minimum number of rides unless injured. In which case using IRR would also be an option alongside using the no. 8 -
Unfortunately your admission pricing model doesn't make good business sense. A family ticket at £20 for two adults and unlimited number of kids actually means adults at £10.00 each kids free. And absolutely no way would two adults (no kids) happily pay "full price" for tickets meaning that the actual admission price for adults would need to be £10.00 Given that £10.00 would yield only £8.33 after Vat the promotion would need to attract double the number of adults just to make the same income if they charged for the normal going rate for adults and kids. Much better that the promotions charges something along the lines of full price for adults and allow 2 children per adult in for free and charge "young adults" between 16 & 18 half price.
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Well that's true enough. But as this is a forum for discussion, folk are allowed to contribute their views are they not? And similarly question statements made by others (ambiguous or not)
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The better riders in speedway as per other classes of two wheel motor sport agree their financial deals and then get on with their job of racing in an attempt to win. Those speedway riders who “need” significant guarantees either doubt their own ability to deliver what is expected of them or smell fear in a desperate promoter. (or both).
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Top boys can only ride in Poland & one other league. So although the rest in-between meetings may appear beneficial some riders (as per Jason D) prefer to be busier than that on their bikes racing. which of course the UK can provide for.
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Highly unlikely that a sponsor could be found to provide £2k+ per point aka Poland. However matching Swedish pay rates (& paying them) is far more likely.
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Which were?
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25 years next year 2022
1 valve replied to TotallyHonestJohn's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
It did move on for a short while when the Sky money rolled in. But unfortunately the money rolled out of the sport via riders pay instead of some being retained and reinvested in it and thus ultimately it dropped back to what we have had for a number of years Depressingly, the same folk are leading the sport and by example they are unable to move away from continually doing what they have always done in the way they run the sport. Sadly with too many clubs & too few riders being available alongside insufficient vision by promoters who refuse to seek & accept external help if it means giving up some (not all) of their control the future doesn’t bode well for any significant improvement on the current scenario. -
Your idea whilst imaginative unfortunately falls at the first hurdle as There are insufficient riders available for squads of 10 which, even if there was the clubs would not have the money to pay for them - given those not riding would still need an income.
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Yes they can walk away. However, in the case of the previous Birmingham promotion, by selling the assets of the company to the new promotion, the old company generated some funds which together with the "bond" was most probably sufficient to pay off creditors which would have included the riders. Only after the creditors have been settled would the shareholders have been able to receive anything albeit, any money they had lent the company would also have been included in the creditor settlement on an equal basis.
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Maybe, but whether solely pay per point or involve guarantees it seems that when outgoings become higher than income then the riders are the ones who are not paid what’s owing to them by folk not running their business properly.
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Does Polish rules limiting those riders competing in Poland to one other league (not country ) mean a rider can only ride in the UK in either the Prem or championship?
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And Wolves.
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They don’t look like units which a grandstand can be built from. More like portable office units being stored. Portable being the operative word so they can get “ported” off somewhere when required.
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News on website reads that a new company has been formed who has acquired the assets of the previous promoting company. This more than likely means the old company will be wound up and unless there are adequate funds left over, unsecured creditors (which riders are) will not receive the money owed to them. That said, the BSPA could arrange for the riders to be paid out of the security fund lodged with them by the previous promotion - assuming there is anything left over.
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Leicester Lions 2022 Line up
1 valve replied to FishersGate's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Excellent if not surprising news. Team looking good. One more rider to go, insight anybody? -
In the case of a speedway rider., he could be riding for a Premiership club who has not paid him and thus quite understandably not want to ride for that club. However, if he refuses to ride for the none paying club, he would be banned from riding in any other UK meetings irrespective of the competition i.e Championship or individual event. So to answer your question, he would "want to ride for a an employer who failed to pay him" so that he can continue to ride elsewhere.
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The big (& grossly unfair)anomaly regarding riders being paid/not paid is that riders would be in an immediate breach of contract should they refuse to ride because of not being paid for previous work (meetings) done with the consequence of not being allowed to ride elsewhere in UK. Promoters however have no reciprocal action taken against them for not paying their workers/contractors “on time” Whilst clearly this set of circumstances is so that “The show must go on” (which wouldn’t happen if riders withhold their services) it seems appropriate that something along the lines of rules being set where riders must be paid no later than (say) 10 days past the due date and if that payment is not made then the BSPA makes the payment from the Bond fund. The delinquent promotion then has to reimburse the fund within a set period time with interest or face further sanctions. Frankly the only promotions who would be unable to live with this type of agreement are those who are in reality unviable in the first place and need to face the consequences sooner rather than later so the sport has a realistic financial & moral operating base to work within.
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Leicester Lions 2022 Line up
1 valve replied to FishersGate's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Two places left to be filled. 1. Kyle Howarth 2. ? Maximum points remaining?