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Well you are most probably correct in assuming half of those listed would leave. And if five man teams become the way forward involving a large inclusion of NDL level then it would be fair to presume half of the current UK attendees would also disappear.

You are a bit behind with your comments and maths. To help you catch up First you need to understand the number of available riders is not simply 13x7 because in one big league, A. There cannot be riders doubling up so these count as one. I.e Leicester this year had 4 out of seven who also rode in the Championship. B. Unless all teams agree to ride on Monday & Thursday riders who race in Poland & Scandinavia will also not be available. I.e In Leicester’s case this would remove three riders. Having done that, the number of C. Individual riders who are at the very least capable of riding competitively in a league somewhat similar to that of the current championship will be sufficient to create 8 teams (not 13) or if riders from the NDL are included then maybe 9 teams. But these lads will not be competitive and maybe even be an on track danger to themselves & others. Finally on the matter of the BSPL making final decisions they are working towards the end of November to do so. The AGM on Jan 6th will be as per normal function of company procedure.

Yes he is- but wouldn’t have made the Prem if not for the injuries of two previous rising stars & highly doubtful he would find a place in 2026 should things remain similar to this year.

Any chance of a summary of what it was?

This year it would have been Joe Thompson. Having been released by the Lions he was re signed due to two rising stars being injured during the season. However, being complacent cannot be laid at Joe’s door. He tried everything possible and gave 100% but being perfectly competent to race at Prem level? Given he came last in every one of his last twelve races for the lions answers that question doesn’t it?

Is this the suggestion made by Peter Oaks? Or is it something else

You say Teams racing at home Mondays and Thursdays mean they could have a GP Rider. Ok that’s a true statement. It also means they would be available to race at other Mon/Thurs tracks currently five. Then you add “a current championship team would do anything possible to arrange fixtures to get the GP star there”. However, For the large part those days could only be Mon or Thurs as the star would not be available or willing to undergo a late and chancy travel schedule. Remember riders who race in Poland are required to be there the day before a meeting not just race day. It is highly unlikely that a guest would be available to equal the level of the GP rider (they will have their own fixtures) and let’s not forget this year as an example Leicester would have needed three guests - just not workable. However when all said and done, one league, seven man squads equal eight teams. Nothing more but maybe something less.

Uh? you responded to a post from TTT which had stated “It's Riders like Chris Harris, Richard Lawson, Danny King etc. who keep British Speedway alive” With “I would argue its riders like this that have been one of the downfalls of the sport”

Uh? you responded to a post from TTT which had stated “It's Riders like Chris Harris, Richard Lawson, Danny King etc. who keep British Speedway alive” With “I would argue its riders like this that have been one of the downfalls of the sport”

“Chris Harris been holding speedway back for years”…….I think I’ve heard it all now. Definitely number one in my chart of stupid is stupid does statements

So what you are proposing is that teams who can’t have home race nights other than Monday or Thursday use guest for away meetings. So just using this year for each weekend meeting. Gusts required would be. Leicester 3 BV 4. Ipswich 3 Sheffield 3. Kings Lynn 2 Now I maybe out by one two but even if the fixtures could be arranged so that only two teams raced Friday, Sat or Sunday, at best seven guests would need to be available. Considering they would be heat leaders there’s absolutely no chance they could be found never mind the (even more) ridicule heaped on the sport with so many riders guesting for other teams. I appreciate you say clubs who ride at home Mon & Thurs “Will have to do their best” for away meetings , but that is a cop out for trying to promote a structure that would just not be deliverable.

The racing would be rubbish for the most part with a lack of competitive races which would be enough to lose even more fans never mind attract newbies talk about killing two birds with one stone

Most on here don’t want one league but admittedly a good number want there cake and eat it. Reality. One league 7 man teams racing on their chosen race night or fixed Monday & Thursdays equals a league of eight- unless lineups feature lads who can’t even make reserve spots in the championship and the team building average is lowered to thirty six - then we might get nine teams with racing being rank boring for the large part.

You’re correct they pay in excess of £16k per match. And attendance is growing year on year

Because unfortunately. There are insufficient number of riders to make 14 team’s viably competitive. There is no willingness to adopt a team structure different to the current 7 man teams. Teams will not agree to race on restricted nights. Their night or no night (they should be careful what they wish for It is not desirable by the BSPL to only have one league of eight teams.

So, as it appears most Championship clubs run profitably throughout the season using the majority of riders who ride in the loss making Premiership. Maybe the Championship clubs should underwrite any potential losses of the team stepping up to the Premiership in order to keep open their source of affordable riders.

And if there was to be no prem or champ leagues but a third “hybrid” that the club he signed for was not a part of? Or that the club deemed him surplus to requirements?

The UK hockey Elite League has fully professional players being paid on average citcs 40k per season. Match day squads are limited to 20 players from a full roster of 25. The average total cost for players is circa £900k over a 26 week regular season meaning an average weekly squad cost of 36k However those figures are averages Imported foreign players are paid in a range of between 70k - 120k (so up to £4k per week) with the majority of British players earning an average of 25k On top of that there are bonuses paid based on performance. As well as accommodation, transport including air fares (for foreign nationals) and university fees to name a few .

Folk on here for the large part appear not to grasp or at least wish to acknowledge Prem & Champ leagues are not individual entities but part of the BSPL. A workable solution needs to be found that represents the best interests of the collective BSPL. Should an impasse prevail and a solution to the current problems facing the prem cannot be agreed and implemented it would be a complete mistake to assume the consequences will only effect those clubs currently in the Prem as the implications will be far more reaching and severely impact most if not all champ clubs to (for some) oblivion.

I understand your sentiment. But since it adds nothing positive to the discussion even if it was bad news. Maybe best to leave posts relating to something that can’t be revealed until they can be?

It’s called an escrow account.

No as a Leicester supporter I would not be happy with a five team league and yes I want a Premier League although neither answer is a "must Have"

No point in posting your inside rumor is there. This whole forum is based on free thinking, rumor's conjecture and opinion. so why not spill the beans on the latest rumor.

The straightforward answer to your question is so to ensure there are sufficient riders doubling up with Prem & Champ teams to enable Championship clubs to be to afford riders and those same riders to have a reasonable income from their UK efforts.

Unfortunately, although you clearly mean well your suggestion just will not work due to a number of factors which are just not sustainable or deliverable. one being, a top league of eight teams will leave no riders to make up a second tier - thus at least no need to worry about the fixture chaos and the mass use of guests required.