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Not that many countries in Scandinavia LOL! Wölbert was one of the riders that had a "groin injury" that prevented him travelling to Russia a couple of years ago, but not bad enough to prevent him from riding for Edinburgh. Kauko was on the same boat, but with a doctors note of a knee injury and actually took a break. I believe it's safe to say that Norway havent had any riders in the past few years, there's been a real lack of them. It now seem's though, that they are coming back and the 80cc scene has been revived, Groin injury a'la Czech was introduced by Jan Caloun, a Czech hockey player when he played in Finland. Very handy injury, it came and went...

Finnish absence from the U21's this year was a one off, dont make it sound like it's been going on for some time. If the idiots at CCP decide to take away our places for next year, then so be it. It's nice that some of them fix places for mates, but when the time come's to actually step up and really do something, it's not in their interest. If you ask the current Finnish team manager about the scandic quali, he would say good riddance, why did it not happen 5 years ago. We had a good set of young lads that of which Timo Lahti is the last one and still eligible next year. The drop before the next is big. And just to prove my point, when Katajisto was allowed to enter the U21 quali's in Poland, he went through. If and possible when our places are taken in the U21, it's a loss. I think we deserve at least one. In the gp qualis I see only negative things coming for us. We had three go through this year, I think we deserve the same but will be surprised if we get two.

Speedway WC qualis from 80 riders to 48! U21's are from 64 to 48... And they still have the Argentinian U21 finals in it before they've even see how it'll work. This is a provisional calendar, I know. I heard about some re-shuffling of the qualifying stages in co-operation between the FIM and the soon to be FIM europe, but naturally I expected the current UEM to get told what to do. It now seems though that the FIM is stepping back...

I quite liked the google translation" Stephan Katt too thick?" So, what have the two of us kept saying about longtrack... Kaupunki Cup last sunday at Hyvinkää July 14th Lahti 1 23 Jiri Nieminen 11222 8 Niko Siltaniemi 33333 15 Forssa 15+3 Marko Suojanen 23333 14+3 Jarkko Kunnaskari 00R 0 Ari Tuomisto 01 1 Lahti 2 15+2 Marko Hyyryläinen 322 7+2 Juha Tuominiemi 010 1 Kalle Kivistö 2311 7 Kauhajoki 15+1 Vili Mattila 12102 6 Janne Nyman 3213 9+1 Karhula 15+0 Tino Turkia 200 2 Marko Toikka 312 6++0 Lasse Sandberg 2131 7 Seinäjoki 7 Seppo Pitkämäki 11F 2 Simon Finne 00221 Erä erältä: 1. Siltaniemi, Suojanen, J.Nieminen, Kunnaskari 67,16 2. Hyyryläinen, Kivistö, Mattila 70,31 3. Toikka, Turkia, Pitkämäki, Finne 75,00 4. Suojanen, Sandberg, Toikka, Tuomisto 68,88 5. Siltaniemi, Hyyryläinen, J.Nieminen, Tuominiemi 67,21 6. Nyman, Mattila, Pitkämäki, Finne 71,12 7. Kivistö, Finne, Tuominiemi, Pitkämäi F 71,38 8. Siltaniemi, J.Nieminen, Sandberg, Turkia 66,00 9. Suojanen, Nyman, Mattila, Kunnaskari 68,21 10. Siltaniemi, J.Nieminen, Nyman, Mattila 65,93 11. Suojanen, Finne, Tuomisto 73,22 12. Sandberg, Toikka, Kivistö, Tuominiemi 71,69 13. Nyman, Mattila, Sandberg, Turkia 71,84 14. Suojanen, Hyyryläinen, Kivistö, Kunnaskari R 68,22 15. Siltaniemi, J.Nieminen, Finne 68,69 Uusinta: Suojanen, Hyyryläinen, Nyman, Toikka 68,35 Tuomari: Jaakko Mäki, katsojia 35. Standings after four matches 1) Seinäjoki (4 matches, +51 heat points) 10, 2) Lahti (2 +47) 10, 3) Varkaus (2 +39) 10, 4) Lahti 2 (3 +49) 9, 5) Karhula (4 +47) 6, 6) Pori (3 +35) 5, 7) Forssa (2 +23) 5, 8) Kauhajoki (4 +49) 4.

Thats longtrack, this is speedway, nuff said. I also saw that headline with Finnish hobby riders taking it from German pro's... Whats's the link to the mentioned funny stuff? Siltaniemi is interested in coming to UK later in the year. It's also a financial thing though, but he can be contacted via his website at nikosiltaniemi.fi. He's not loaded with backup, but with a winning attitude and attacks any track.

That would put GB out of running for good! After all, thats why the rule of the seeded home nation was introduced.

SM-liiga today at Hyvinkää Kotkat 37 Juha Hautamäki 23333 14 Markku Autio 11031 6 Joni Keskinen 33223 13 Jere Lehtonen 1120 4 Keittiöpiste 32 Teemu Lahti 21112 7 Timo Lahti 32232 12 Marko Hyyryläinen 31020 6 Janne Nyman 3121 7 Sand Blowers 25 Tomi Reima 00210 3 Niko Siltaniemi 1223^32 13 Jesse Mustonen T002 2 Tomi Paavola 2203 7 Haukat 19 Kalle Katajisto 333R3 12 Jiri Nieminen 00111 3 Vili Mattila 2d101 4 Jukka Nieminen 00F0 0 Erä erältä: 1. Nyman, Paavola, Lehtonen, Ju.Nieminen 68,44 2. T.Lahti, Lahti, Siltaniemi, Reima 64,65 3. Katajisto, Hautamäki, Autio, J.Nieminen 63,47 4. Keskinen, Paavola, Lehtonen, J.Mustonen T 67,97 5. Hyyryläinen, Mattila, Nyman, Ju.Nieminen 69,25 6. Katajisto, T.Lahti, Lahti, J.Nieminen 63,59 7. Hautamäki, Siltaniemi, Autio, J.Mustonen 65,41 8. Katajisto, Siltaniemi, J.Nieminen, Reima 65,41 9. Keskinen, Lehtonen, Ju.Nieminen F, Mattila d 70,22 10. Hautamäki, T.Lahti, Lahti, Autio 65,63 11. Siltaniemi^, Nyman, Hyyryläinen, Paavola 65,84 12. Siltaniemi, Reima, Mattila, Katajisto R 65,72 13. Autio, Keskinen, J.Nieminen, Mattila 66,34 14. Hautamäki, Keskinen, J.Nieminen, Mattila 66,34 15. T.Lahti, Lahti, Reima, J.Mustonen 65,65 16. Keskinen, Hyyryläinen, Nyman, Lehtonen 68,00 17. Paavola, J.Mustonen, Mattila, Ju.Nieminen 69,66 18. Hautamäki, Siltaniemi, Autio, Reima 66,32 19. Katajisto, T.Lahti, J.Nieminen, Hyyryläinen 64,47 Tuomari: Mika Laukkanen, katsojia ?. Standings 5/8 1) Keittiöpiste (+187) 23 2) Kotkat (+149) 19 3) Sand Blowers (+108) 17 4) Haukat (+99) 10.

Run offs, just like everywhere else. Only weird thing is, that they had to do the first one twice cos they waved the flag a lap early.

One major thing, change of tuner. Dont know about the holiday, possibly from LT series... Speedwayn Kaupunki Cup 4/8 Pori (SsMK/PMK) 8.7.2012 Lahti 1 24 Jiri Nieminen 32122 10 Niko Siltaniemi 23333 14 Lahti 2 15+3 Marko Hyyryläinen 13323 12+d+3 Juha Tuominiemi 01 1 Kalle Kivistö RR2 2 Pori 15+F Jouni Viljanen 31222 10+d Jere Lehtonen 20111 5+F Kauhajoki 14+2 Janne Nyman 22331 11+2 Miikka Hyyryläinen 11100 3 Seinäjoki 14+3 Aarni Heikkilä RFn 1 Jani Pirttinen 33233 14+3 Karhula 5 Tino Turkia 1d211 5 Simo Pulli 0Fn 0 Erä erältä: 1. J.Nieminen, Siltaniemi, Hyyryläinen, Kivistö R 65,62 2. Pirttinen, Nyman, Mi.Hyyryläinen, Heikkilä R 67,23 3. Viljanen, Lehtonen, Turkia, Pulli 66,34 4. Siltaniemi, J.Nieminen, Viljanen, Lehtonen 64,37 5. Hyyryläinen, Nyman, Mi.Hyyryläinen, Tuominiemi 65,96 6. Pirttinen, Turkia d, Pulli Fn, Heikkilä Fn 69,37 7. Nyman, Turkia, Mi.Hyyryläinen 68,50 8. Hyyryläinen, Viljanen, Lehtonen, Kivistö R 66,18 9. Siltaniemi, Pirttinen, J.Nieminen 65,12 10. Pirttinen, Hyyryläinen, Tuominiemi 67,14 11. Siltaniemi, J.Nieminen, Turkia 65,56 12. Nyman, Viljanen, Lehtonen, Mi.Hyyryläinen 67,31 13. Pirttinen, Viljanen, Lehtonen 68,10 14. Siltaniemi, J.Nieminen, Nyman, Mi.Hyyryläinen 66,45 15. Hyyryläinen, Kivistö, Turkia 68,56 Uusinta 1: Hyyryläinen d, Viljanen d Uusinta 2: Pirttinen, Nyman Uusinta 3: Hyyryläinen, Lehtonen F Tuomari: Harri Heikkilä, katsojia 39. SPEEDWAYN KAUPUNKI CUPIN SARJATAULUKKO (päivitetty 8.7.2012 klo 21.15) Joukkue O + P Seinäjoki 3 44 10 Varkaus 2 39 10 Lahti 2 2 34 6 Karhula 3 32 6 Lahti 1 1 24 5 Pori 2 20 2 Kauhajoki 3 34 2 Forssa 1 8 1

Have the changed the track in Bydgoszzcxz? The first and second bend look too round and there's much more space on the safety zone than I remember. Thank you Tomasz Gollob for answering my question so quickly.

I asked him about this, he said it was a money thing, he dropped/was left out but I got the impression it was made in mutual understanding. He did OK today, dropped more points than "usual" (if that can be said) but did really well. The track was dry and packed, I counted three passes after 1st bend and each by Niko Siltaniemi. He was on fire today, alltough points dont show that. I'll write results in a few hours, when I get home. Speedwayn SM-liiga at Hyvinkää, July 7th. This was the re-staging of the rained off season opener. Keittiöpiste 43 Tero Aarnio 01132 7 Timo Lahti 23333 14 Teemu Lahti 32232 12 Marko Suojanen 3232 10 Kotkat 32 Juha Hautamäki 33113 11 Mika Loppi 13121 8 Joni Keskinen 30103 7 Jani Pirttinen 2202 6 Sand Blowers 21 Niko Siltaniemi 22232 11 Aarni Heikkilä 11010 3 Tomi Paavola 1F00 1 Simo Pulli 10311 6 Haukat 18 Kalle Katajisto 32231 11 Jiri Nieminen 00020 2 Vili Mattila 12001 4 Jukka Nieminen 0010 1 Erä erältä: 1. Suojanen, Pirttinen, Pulli, Ju.Nieminen 65,84 2. Hautamäki, T.Lahti, Loppi, Aarnio 65,00 3. Katajisto, Siltaniemi, Heikkilä, J.Nieminen 64,19 4. Keskinen, Pirttinen, Paavola, Pulli 66,76 5. Lahti, Suojanen, Mattila, Ju.Nieminen 65,79 6. T.Lahti, Katajisto, Aarnio, J.Nieminen 65,45 7. Loppi, Siltaniemi, Heikkilä, Keskinen 65,83 8. Hautamäki, Katajisto, Loppi, J.Nieminen 65,78 9. Pulli, Mattila, Ju.Nieminen, Paavola F 71,31 10. T.Lahti, Siltaniemi, Aarnio, Heikkilä 64,20 11. Suojanen, Lahti, Keskinen, Pirttinen 66,41 12. Katajisto, Loppi, Hautamäki, Mattila 65,30 13. Aarnio, Lahti, Heikkilä, Paavola 66,19 14. Siltaniemi, J.Nieminen, Pulli, Mattila 65,12 15. T.Lahti, Aarnio, Hautamäki, Keskinen 64,66 16. Lahti, Suojanen, Pulli, Paavola 66,35 17. Keskinen, Pirttinen, Mattila, Ju.Nieminen 69,10 18. Hautamäki, Siltaniemi, Loppi, Heikkilä 66,29 19. T.Lahti, Lahti, Katajisto, J.Nieminen 65,94 Tuomari: Mika Laukkanen, katsojia 135. Standings 4/8 2012: 1) Keittiöpiste (+155) 19 pistettä, 2) Kotkat (+112) 14, 3) Sand Blowers (+83) 14, 4) Haukat (+80) 8. New averages will come to play in the last half of the season. Riding order is set by the average, highest is #1 and so on..

I had a mistake in the results from Kuusankoski. Heat details were correct, but in the scores Kalle Kivistö was riding instead of Pulliainen. Pulliainen I'm told is suffering from migraine and is on the sidelines. I think it's a funny post on the Finnish forum, someone is wondering if Hyvinkää will ride today since it's been between +20 and +26 all week... If it's too hot?

Big disappointment for Henri Ahlbom and his fans. Hometrack and all... Also Niilo Vuolas is one of our top guns. It's now down to Nike Lunna and Jooa Partanen to rock the world in their last chance in proving themselves in 80cc Worlds.

I noticed that Katajisto has a second meeting for Rospiggarna tomorrow and he's also been listed for Outrup in the Danish league this? week. Also I've spent 5 hours on the phone regarding last nights meeting... Lovely!

SM-liiga today at Kuusankoski Keittiöpiste 39 Tero Aarnio 22223 11 Timo Lahti 31321 10 Teemu Lahti 33333 15 Marko Suojanen 3Fn 3 Kotkat 26 Juha Hautamäki R323 8 Mika Loppi 12122 8 Markku Autio d2112 6 Joni Keskinen RT13 4 Haukat 21 Kalle Katajisto 33332 14 Jiri Nieminen 20032 7 Mika Pellinen d 0 Sand Blowers 2 Jari Mäkinen R 0 Niko Siltaniemi R 0 Aarni Heikkilä d 0 Kalle Kivistö 2d 2 Erä erältä: 1. Suojanen, Kivistö, Keskinen R 63,94 2. Katajisto, J.Nieminen, Mäkinen R, Siltaniemi R 61,48 3. T.Lahti, Aarnio, Loppi, Hautamäki R 61,18 4. Keskinen T, Autio d, Heikkilä d, Kivistö d # 5. Lahti, Pellinen d, Suojanen Fn 62,39 6. Katajisto, Aarnio, T.Lahti, J.Nieminen 61,41 7. Hautamäki, Loppi 64,45 8. T.Lahti, Aarnio 62,05 9. Lahti, Autio, Keskinen 63,19 10. Katajisto, Hautamäki, Loppi, J.Nieminen 62,19 11. ei ajettu, not ridden 12. Lahti, Aarnio 63,41 13. Katajisto, Loppi, Autio 63,55 14. Lahti, T.Lahti, Autio, Hautamäki R 61,98 15. J.Nieminen, Katajisto 65,92 16. Keskinen, Autio 69,27 17. Lahti 63,28 18. Hautamäki, Loppi 63,88 19. Aarnio, J.Nieminen, T.Lahti 65,22 Tuomari: Matti Pöysä, katsojia ? Haukat was one rider short, so they will be deducted 1 point in the standings (3-1=2) Seura O + P standings 3/8 Keittiöpiste 3 - 112 - 14 Sand Blowers 3 - 62 - 11 Kotkat 3 - 80 - 10 Haukat 3 - 62 - 6 Sand Blowers basically withdrew from the meeting blaming track conditions. I'll post comments later in the week.

I can see a fine coming...

Were you thinking out loud, or answering my kinda retorical question?

I was on the phone to the UEM(!) congress on friday and it appears that a sponsor is coming in on their speedway championships. That naturally means money and that means that riders will want to ride in their meetings. Not Finns though, we are kicked out apparently (if so -> deservedly). So it's another step on the toes of the FIM, one wonders what Ziegler is really trying to achieve.

F U! I dont mind your comments, but at the moment I'm kind of tired and again feeling sort of uncertain is there speedway next month/year in Finland or not. So another time and place maybe... Glad I made Hasse Holmqvist look like an idiot on another thread so that'll keep me going for a week... Speedwayn Kaupunki Cup 3/8 Seinäjoki (SeMK) 1.7.2012 Varkaus 25 Mico Brotkin T13232 11 Jesse Mustonen 3T121 7 Aki-Pekka Mustonen 223 7 Seinäjoki 1 20 Aarni Heikkilä 222013 10 Herman Kenkkilä 131122 10 Karhula 19+3 Tino Turkia TT111d 3 Mikael Pellinen 333223 16+3 Lahti 2 19+2 Marko Hyyryläinen 3333 12 Juha Tuominiemi 0000 0 Kalle Kivistö 1222 7 Kauhajoki 14 Vili Mattila 312212 11 Miikka Hyyryläinen 200001 3 Pori 12 Jouni Viljanen 0223F1 8 Jere Lehtonen 1111d 4 Seinäjoki 2 16 Joni Keskinen M33333 15 Seppo Pitkämäki 1000d 1 Seinäjoki 2 ajoi ottelun ulkopuolella. Erä erältä: 1. Mattila, Mi.Hyyryläinen, Kivistö, Tuominiemi 69,21 2. Pellinen, Heikkilä, Kenkkilä, Turkia T 65,94 3. J.Mustonen, Mustonen, Lehtonen, Viljanen 68,81 4. Ma.Hyyryläinen, Kivistö, Pitkämäki, Keskinen M 67,78 5. Kenkkilä, Heikkilä, Mattila, Mi.Hyyryläinen 66,66 6. Pellinen, Viljanen, Lehtonen, Turkia T 66,95 7. Keskinen, Mustonen, Brotkin, Pitkämäki 65,24 8. Ma.Hyyryläinen, Heikkilä, Kenkkilä, Tuominiemi 66,99 9. Pellinen, Mattila, Turkia, Mi.Hyyryläinen 67,66 10. Keskinen, Viljanen, Lehtonen, Pitkämäki 66,53 11. Brotkin, Kivistö, J.Mustonen, Tuominiemi 67,15 12. Viljanen, Mattila, Lehtonen, Mi.Hyyryläinen 68,06 13. Mustonen, Brotkin, Kenkkilä, Heikkilä 68,37 14. Keskinen, Pellinen, Turkia, Pitkämäki 65,58 15. Ma.Hyyryläinen, Kivistö, Viljanen F, Lehtonen d 68,74 16. Brotkin, J.Mustonen, Mattila, Mi.Hyyryläinen 70,59 17. Keskinen, Kenkkilä, Heikkilä, Pitkämäki d 66,34 18. Ma.Hyyryläinen, Pellinen, Turkia, Tuominiemi 66,56 19. Keskinen, Mattila, Mi.Hyyryläinen 67,31 20. Heikkilä, Kenkkilä, Viljanen 67,95 21. Pellinen, Brotkin, J.Mustonen, Turkia d # Uusinta: Pellinen, Ma.Hyyryläinen 66,93 Tuomari: Mika Laukkanen, katsojia 86, # = ei aikaa. Kaupunki Cup after 2 rounds. Joukkue O + P Varkaus 2 - 39 - 10 Seinäjoki 2 - 30 - 8 Karhula 2 - 27 - 6 Pori 2 - 20 - 2 Lahti 2 1 - 19 - 2 Forssa 1 - 8 - 1 Kauhajoki 2 - 20 - 1 Lahti 0 - 0 - 0

From the updates site, last friday at Coventry vs Easbourne... So he did beat him.. LOL Heat 04: Lahti, Nicholls, Bridger, Bager 2-4 (11-13) 59.9 Line Up: Nicholls, Bager, Bridger, Lahti Comments: Eagles pair gate, Nicholls gives chase, cuts up inside of bend 4 lap 3 to pass Bridger. Read more: http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Coventry&action=display&thread=10386#ixzz1zNnjTaWD

Kaupunki Cup from Kauhajoki yesterday. Abandoned after nine heats due to rain, results will stand. Speedwayn Kaupunki Cup 2/8 Kauhajoki (KauhjMK) 30.6.2012 Varkaus 14 Jesse Mustonen 233 8 Mico Brotkin 31 4 Aki-Pekka Mustonen 2 2 Seinäjoki 10 Aarni Heikkilä 22R 4 Herman Kenkkilä 312 6 Karhula 8 Tino Turkia dd 0 Mikael Pellinen 332 8 Forssa 8 Marko Suojanen 33 6 Jarkko Kunnaskari 001 1 Ari Tuomisto 1 1 Pori 8 Jouni Viljanen 213 6 Jere Lehtonen 101 2 Kauhajoki 6 Vili Mattila 122 5 Miikka Hyyryläinen 010 1 Erä erältä: 1. Kenkkilä, Heikkilä, Mattila, Hyyryläinen 63,33 2. Pellinen, Viljanen, Lehtonen, Turkia d 64,77 3. Brotkin, J.Mustonen, Tuomisto, Kunnaskari 63,41 4. Suojanen, Mattila, Hyyryläinen, Kunnaskari 62,81 5. Pellinen, Heikkilä, Kenkkilä, Turkia d 64,87 6. J.Mustonen, Mustonen, Viljanen, Lehtonen 66,92 7. J.Mustonen, Pellinen, Brotkin 64,90 8. Suojanen, Kenkkilä, Kunnaskari, Heikkilä R 63,79 9. Viljanen, Mattila, Lehtonen, Hyyryläinen 67,10 Tuomari: Mika Laukkanen, katsojia ?

We have a set of jackets, and I think they are one of the better ones. ***OR WHAT YOU THINK*** It's just that I was the last one who cared about using them, it seems.

Only had a couple, can still think. I also read the TW interview from last weeks spar yesterday and thought it was pretty good. He had very realistic view of his situation. He's not ready. I was there at the Kumla U21 final wondering why CH spent his "spare" time sitting on a chair rather than on his bike with his mechanics. Learned later via Spar he had no idea how adjust his bike. He was a medalist that year. Seems it dont work in the Gp's the same and plenty of people on here that see him weekly (ride or more) think it has not changed. I was the #1 scott Nicholls fan around 10 years ago, would have gone to a REALLY heavy debate with many forum members to defend him (probably did, in person) but where's he now. Making a decent living racing in the UK, not GP material. Timo Lahti probably even beat him yesterday... = ) Naturally I'm also stirring, but it's not just that.

The same with kylmä, captain nemo and timo lahti. Well... At least they are as good as the top brit.

I bet he did not know what hit him! Timo Lahti on in 20 minutes time. When he puts on his gating gloves, anything can happen in Vojens' slick track... And then it rains. I bet he did not know what hit him! Timo Lahti on in 20 minutes time. When he puts on his gating gloves, anything can happen in Vojens' slick track... And then it rains.