Steve Shovlar

That's it by the sound of things.

Great way to leave thousands of speedway fans in the lurch by not finishing the meeting online.

Jesus whats all this crappy awful rock band nonsense?

Ok the reboot sorted it. Thanks

Not getting a thing. Jusst a blank page in ie. I'll try a reboot.

You have to pay to watch this? I can't find it anywhere. The mms link doesn't seem to work at all, and opens a blank ie page.

I have a busy day tomorrow and left after heat 2 of the CL meeting. By the sound of it I am glad I did. Hope all are OK.

Terrible dusty meeting on a super slick track. had to come straight in and wash my hair it was so bad. Don't understand why the track staff prepared it in such a manner. Couple of decent heats in a low key affair. The Pole Jellyman seemed very good, and in anothe heat Holder and watt did Zabik up like a kipper.

People need to realise that Walasek is a number one in Poland and not the same rider we see over here in the UK struggling around on a 5-6 point average. In Poland he is a serious force to be reckoned with. of course he won't make much of a dent in the GP series but he isn't as bad as many envisage. But Falcace makes some interesting points. It's very hard for a youngster to come in and compete at this very top level against the old boys. Not only have the oldies (Crump, Adams, Hancock, Gollob) got a great team in place but they also keep themselves safe and fit. They can go on for years at this level by playing their safe hands. For a youngster to step up and be consistent is almost impossible without hyge backing. Sure they can make a dent ( Lindback almost got there on a couple of occassions and should have won a GP at Daugvapils) but the amount needed to compete competitively throughout a whole GO season is far more than these young lads can possibly earn through points money alone. There are riders out there who do have the ability to make the breakthrough, but more than skill on a bike is needed. Holder is the obvious candidate but he has already said he just doesn't have the financial resources in place to compete in 2009. If offered a place I doubt he would turn it down, but he probably wouldn't do as well as he would lie with his gear and team stretched to the limit. Same goes for the other youngsters. Nicki Pedersen is dominating the series as much as TRick did a few years ago. There is no one in the current GP field who can live with him on a consistent basis, so he is realistically going to win the GP series at least two more times before he starts to slip back into the field/someone comes up to challange him. The days of a Michael Lee/boy wonder coming into the GP series and winning the WC are long gone. Consistency is king and to be consistent means a big back up team, lots experience, and lots of money. And only the old boys have that.

Sorry that isn't the case. Nicholls is not in the top 8 as yet so doesn't deserve it over the three that got in tonight. they are there by earning their place. nicholls is there because someone has let him have a place. If nicholls was there by right he would have been in tonights meeting, or in the top 8 at the end of the series.

But what if Poland suddenly had 10 of the best 15 riders in the world? Wouldn't make great viewing figures outside of Poland for BSI!! There has to be a nationality selection process, with a couple fo extra places available for riders of ability to slot in as well, which is non dependant on nationality.

Well the streaming lasted for me all the way through. hardly worth watching though. Track ultra slick and suited the guys with big fast engines. Plus of course it was Walaseks home track! For 2009: Bjerre Walasek Ulamek N Pedersen Crump Adams Gollob Nicholls Holder Andersen Hancock Jonsson Lindgren Pavlic Saifudinov wild card Time will tell of course.

Have to agree. Both Ulamek and Bjerre not likely to do a thing. Walasek only slightly better in that he is good on the large tracks. To be honest all three are poor qualifiers though. best news is Sullivan blew it though. At least it means Noddy is likely to be offered one of the wild cards, which has to be good for the series.

Well Sullivan is 3 wins from 3 and almost there. bad news but from a selfish point of view at least noddy can concentrate on Poole in 2009!

Looking at the time its likely to die on me shortly too. Normally at 6.10 it starts to sieze up then starts buffering before nada.

http://www.itvp.pl/player.html?mode=2&...;video_id=20416 Agree Frigbo Pavlic is being made to look like a youngster. Good move by Iversen in one heat and walasek in the last. Looking like a race out between: Sullivan Walasek Bjerre Ulamek Iversen

Bad news for Holder and the GP series is that Sullivan has won his first 2.

NOt being shown at the moment

Thought Szczepaniak was under 21.

Well Pirates had a spare date to fill this week, being completely up to date with meetings, and rather than leave it blank are putting on 22 heats of speedway for £12 (£4 kids). A 16 heat meeting will be followed by a 8 heat Conference Championship meeting featuring Darcy Ward and Bredan Johnson, Matt Bates, Kyle newman, Rob Smith, Carl Mason, Andrew Aldridge and Jerran Hart Very good value for money. Teams: Holder Eriksson Davidsson Lemon Danny King Batchelor Vissing Watt Doolan Doyle Woffinden Parker Skornicki Zabik Daniel Jeleniewski Michal Szczepaniak Interesting to watch those two young Poles in action.

Can anyone actually watch the whole polish meetings all the way through? They always start OK and then after 30 minutes freeze up and eventually i have to give up as the fail completely. I am with BT business broadband, and between 6 and 11pm the amount of bandwidth I get is reduced. ( BT say it's due to the amount of broadband users. personally i thin BT have a automated switch which limits the amount of broadband received. It's not a gradual process and clearlt defined by time) The result is I can't watch the streaming. Do others have a similar problem or just BT users? I have 2Mb connection ( The fastest possible for me here in the sticks)

Worst thing that could possibly happen for BSI is for Sullivan to quaify. A rider well past his sell by date who is getting by on his gating in league meetings. It will also end any chance Holder will have of getting a wild card place. Holder or Sullivan? I know who the majority of fans and BSI would want in to liven up the series. Hopefully Pavlic, Bjerre and Zagar will get in.

Whilst Holder may have a similar average to the three above, I think its very obvious he has the potential to go a lot further in the sport than any of the above, who are now riding at their best ( injuries beside) Holder is far from the finished article and is destined for the top of the sport. easy to see as it was with both Crump and Adams in the early stages of their careers. I doubt Holder would struggle as you make out like KK or Bjarne or Iversen. In fact I woould feel sure he would qualify top 8 for the following year without too much trouble at all.

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