SteveLyric2

Who would be a Promoter?? Those supporters complaining about 'watering down' the league and giving young Brits a chance are the same ones insisting that 'foreigners' are given higher averages making it more difficult to use them!!!

Not forgetting all the work Neil Vatcher has also put in with the youngsters!!! But my vote would go to Rosco! (although his stint as Aussie U21 team manager may go against him??!)

They don't fit!!!

I do have empathy with both ColinMills and AndyK's points of view, because both have elements of being right. I am not sure if speedway fans generally are any different to fans of other sports? Some footie fans prefer to attend Premiership matches and pay the going rate - some support Divisions 2 or 3 or even grass roots football! In speedway, some prefer EL, some prefer PL - often (but not always) dependant on what is available close to where they live. Also some insist its only the 'top riders' that make for great speedway - others argue that great racing is available at all levels. The key issue for EVERYONE is one of cost and value for money. League speedway in UK needs to be affordable for all including Promoters and riders - especially in the current financial climate - and also needs to be value for money for the Fans. Getting the right balance is clearly a nightmare as there is no one solution that will please all, not least because all clubs/fans are basing their preferences on what they have become used to. The first major step (for all countries) is to somehow cut the costs of machinery and everything related to maintaining bikes for league racing. If that can be achieved, without affecting the quality/excitement of racing, then it would be a major step forward towards stabilising the sport, reducing costs and attracting fans (back)! Any moneys from Sponsorship/Sky deal/TV deal should be utilised to that end!

I guess your club doesn't do any of those things then?! Do you not get a chance to go in the pits either or meet the riders after the meeting or be part of the supporters club? etc etc ...and I thought Sheffield were one of the progressive clubs?!!

I thought it was only MF that Bees fans detested!!? Enjoy the slide!!

Is Phil Morris going to be in the pits with Bomber? Or is that arrangement just for GPs?

Which by the same logic/average makes Chris Holder the best rider in the EL in 2013!!

Chris Holder 9.25!!

you'ld be in a very long queue!!!!

Gavan it was me that introduced the Chris Holder average (9.25 - when he got injured), as the argument/opinion as to who was the 'better' rider seemed to be taking the route of who had the highest average and therefore who was the better rider? ie Darcy or Tai? I was trying to illustrate that averages can be misleading as well as also giving an indication as to the best rider at any given time. Holder's finishing EL average of 9.25 therefore makes him a better rider than Tai, Darcy or NKI!!! Fact!! or is it?! As this is a Poole Pirates 2014 thread, then I'm entitled to ask/state/wind-up? surely?!

Actually, just to muddy the waters a little - Holder's EL average was/is 9.25, which is higher than any other EL rider, so that makes him the best rider in the UK in 2013, especially as at the time of his injury he was the reigning World Champion!!?

Any visa issues are certainly not putting Rohan off at Gillman today!!!!

Speedway Star, I think!!

I'm sure we'll all know what the new rules/ formats are before the first meeting!! Whats the rush?? Its not as if there are any racecards to design/fill in til March anyway!!?

I still don't know what PR advantage Sky (if it is Sky? ) will have in making any announcement?! They will in effect and in reality be committing to a 'deal' that is much less that in any one of the past 15(?) or so years. Why would any organisation make a big announcement like that?? Its for the BSPA to announce - along with some new sponsorship, hopefully!!!

'Ever present'?! Except when he's in Denmark instead of Norfolk, or banned!! Darcy's gating did actually show a bit of an improvement at the end of last season - not least because of what he was learning from Greg Hancock!! Hopefully that tuition has continued in California and as part of the ongoing Monster team ethic!! Anyway this all started after the comments of disappointment about not using Tungate!! Purely down to the points limits agreed for 2014 and as SB pointed out, not only affecting Poole but many other clubs and riders. Personally, Tungate's injuries at the end of the season truncated his performances - unfortunately not reducing his average sufficiently for Poole to consider him in 2014. I hope he continues his improvement!

Can't fit him into the 32 point limit - unfortunately. Great little rider!!!

..only ever 'appens oop North, when it rains and rains and rains so much the drainage doesn't work and others have to make a decision!!

I'm sure the Glasgow promotion won't go back on it though - unlike Plymouth!!!!

I thought it had been........?! Ooops.

To blow everything else away - again - hopefully!!

When MF's back from his holiday I guess!!?? Assuming it is still Shamek??!!

Who's the other one then??!

Good on him. Is he taking over the tractor duties??