SteveLyric2

Well, 'some' of the EL needed it, and I agree about the PL.

As I said on another thread, the promoters clearly know what points limits and team structures have been discussed and tentatively agreed before the 'rubber stamping' at the AGM and they have to get the 'visa' riders contracted before they head off to the Oz GP, unless they come back to the UK thereafter. My only query on that is what if there is an extra team eg Kent Kings? To announce the full 1-7 (or most of it) before the AGM might be considered a little foolhardy, however much influence one might have?! (ps There was a whisper the AGM has moved a week earlier than originally planned?? Not sure?!)

Each to their own - however misguided it may be!! What I don't understand is the relevance to Kent Kings 2016. I really can't believe the amount of negativity about the possibility of the EL having extra teams?!

If that were totally true then the EL would have been operating squads 4-5 years ago; and the EDR would have started in the PL NOT the EL!!

As one of the more knowledgeable posters SCB, i'd have thought you would know who gets copies of the Referee's report!! BTW, nobody has seen fit to answer my earlier question as to where in any statement from BV have they said the are/were officially appealing or protesting?? More resentful vitriol from the 'I used to be a centregreen presenter and commentator until I lost my job years ago'!! Yet another who continually talks the sport down on any/every forum thread.

Pure BS. The TV coverage clearly shows Kyle tightening the cut-out lanyard immeadiately after the Start marshall took his goggles!

I'm a firm believer that those British clubs that are financially solid enough - and it may only be 3 or 4 - should form the Sky Super League, with a small fixture list and able to attract the top riders.. Those same clubs plus all the others can then also choose to operate a weaker (cheaper?) team in what would be the equivalent of PL+ and/or NL level, which could be regionalised depending on the number of teams. The sport should not continue to operate and be strangled by the lowest common denominator every year. Most Poole supporters - and many promoters if they were honest enough to admit it - don't need it printed out!! We know it to be true.

So it seems there was no mention of any incident at heat 12, nor any official protest in the official referee's report to the SCB, so I'm not quite sure what people expect the SCB to do?? Thank Belle Vue for writing in afterwards and wish them well in their new home!!

Maybe Cradley then??? Perhaps that's why Sky are grooming Simon Stead as an alternative Presenter/commentator??

Yes I'm for real, as is the whole crowd from Wednesday at Poole. Nothing I've posted is not in the public domain after his interview on Wednesday. All he said was that he still didn't know ALL the finer details of the accident as to what and how it happened and he would be flying home a week on Thursday!! Sorry if that doesn't fit in with your preferred and inaccurate version of events, but hey ho. All our best wishes go to Rod North in hospital.

A 'relatively modest rent'?? But no income from any of the stadium facilities! The only income is from sponsorship, advertising, gate receipts and programme sales. The 'captive audience' is an interesting one - fans and sponsors come from far and wide, not just Dorset, but Somerset,Hampshire, Berkshire (Rick Frost!!) and beyond. Fans and sponsors want a successful team with high-profile riders - be they local or from further afield. Its a real shame that many positive ideas for the long-term benefit of the sport at the top level in the UK, are discarded at the AGM because 'the weaker clubs are frightened'. Rules and regs are always made to suit the weaker teams.

In football, a player 'dives' in the penalty area and gains a penalty from which his team scores the winning goal. If after post-match official protest and intense media coverage, the FA decide to take action, then the penalty against the player is usually a retrospective fine or booking BUT the score/result is not changed! Also if it is believed the referee should have seen the 'dive', then the ref can also be penalised by being suspended from the refs rota for a while. So lets not paint speedway as some sort of special case!!

What has also been said is that Dak was told by his father/family to stay til the end of the season - do Darcy's meeting and fly back the next day, which is exactly what he's doing!! His father will still be hospitalised when he gets back to Oz, having had more than just one (12 hour)operation since the accident!! Unless the injury was 'life-threatening' which we know it wasn't thank goodness, merely life changing, having been told to stay. clear his head and then continue with his job, why would the family keep updating him after every hospital development, especially as he will still be in hospital when Dak gets back. FFS people give it a rest.

As you say, Poole have pretty much dominated much of the past 7 years - if not longer - and that is working within reduced points limits and changing much of the side every year to fit. If the EL sticks to the 'one EDR into the top 5' for 2016 suggestion - in Poole's case Newman (however they decide the averages), what would happen if he (or Garrity, Kerr etc) gets injured or has a dramatic loss of form? How will the rules allow for him to be replaced, with many people not liking guests and there not being a long enough list of strong enough young Brits?!

Sorry you feel like that. Loads of people on here 'don't need to say anything' but it generally doesn't stop them, does it Jacques!! Anyway glad to see you are still keeping up with the EL finalists! It must be so galling for you.

Sorry if my comment offended some. I couldn't get near the pits unfortunately - its more restricted when Sky are there - but most of the 'chit-chat' was going around before the meeting and then again after heat 10 in the interval. Although I didn't mention any rider by name in my earlier comment, It was mentioned to one of Cook's main sponsors, CFS, who sit near me in the grandstand and who also sponsor Kyle and Paul. They shrugged!! As I said I was only passing on what was being said and it was a shame to hear on an otherwise great night..

Mark Lemon has said both in articles and on Sky last night that 'Poole are the benchmark' for others to aim at. We certainly get a lot of aiming on here!! Have you been on the Vinho Verde today BWitcher???

Somebody needs to move on. Everyone knows there's no signal on that golf course!! Jeeez

Article in this week's Star headed "Elite for Kent" :- 'After weeks of suggestion and rumour, Kent Co-promoter Len Silver confirmed the club will be looking to run in the Elite League in 2016. '................There are obviously 'T's to be crossed and 'I's to be dotted but I personally think that is what will happen and I will stay involved in the whole promotion as is Roger Cearns, our stadium owner.'

Whilst agreeing there is some merit in retaining the same team in successive seasons, it would likely stint any overall improvement. Matt Ford said publicly last night that he would be rebuilding the team for 2016. Make no mistake, promoters already know what team building rules will be in place - they just need to be rubber-stamped at the AGM - unless there is a new number of EL teams to consider?! Also the paperwork for all visa riders needs to be in place before they all disappear back home, so some early decisions and announcements are likely!

Great to see the work Sam Ermolenko is putting in on the new engines.Well done - anything to keep him away from commentating!!! (Only joking!)

...and I was there and heard it first hand!!!!!

Don't shoot the messenger!!!

Wow what a night - and morning!!!!!! Correct me if I'm wrong but nowhere in BV's statement does the word 'appeal' appear. They have merely written to the SCB. Others have explained the official Appeals procedure, so lets move on. Anyway back to last night. A good win by the Pirates and a great display by the Aces. Some great banter with the Aces fans who really joined in with the 'Darcy Ward Darcy Ward' chanting as witnessed on TV. Great stuff. Some good words at the end and a couple of great interviews by Matt Ford - one on Sky and one to the crowd, which just started the Darcy chant again. Highly emotional!! Best wishes to Dak's dad who as Dak explained is likely to still be in hospital for another 3 weeks at least - so not likely a simple hand injury!!!! Finally a super atmosphere, great crowd and a terrific advert for speedway. (ps. Just a shame there was so much chit-chat about 'fuel additives in the away pits'!! Can't think who or what they meant?!! Apparantly similar comments at Somerset on Tuesday too!!) On to Darcy's meeting next week and a chance to see the return of Greg and Shamek and the first appearance of Mr Dudek!! No doubt all part of Matt Ford's 're-building for 2016'. #4forDarcyin2016

Personally I shall be pleased when the season is over and the trophies are in the cabinet. I can get back to watching some decent TV. I wonder if Speedway will be on 'Gogglebox' on Friday?? Think of the potential new audiences...........!!