SteveLyric2

So as others have pointed out you still choose to not recognise the word 'remainder'?! Its a shame really as your last 5 words in your post above pretty much sum you up on this thread!!

Yeah but the right nod and wink to Louis from his masters at Sky could change all that!! ;-) Can understand Hawkins being reluctant as he'll be way out of his depth in the EL.

I think GH actually followed the rule to the letter. He made himself 'ineligible for the remainder of the series' (ie the rest of the final meeting of the series) and at the end was rightly crowned World Champion as he was not 'ineligible' for all the preceding rounds of the Championship during which he accrued more points than any other rider!!

So I log on to the BSF for the first time today and the first post I see is Gavan on a Poole thread!1 Quel Surprise!! With reference to the apparent obsession with Kyle Newman that some seem to have, as SS has said, aside from any mechanical/set-up issues, he had a bad injury and a life-threatening illness (sepsis in the groin) which would stop any speedway rider in their tracks (sorry), so it might just be a tad understandable why his natural progress may have stalled a little. But his end of season performances when he was almost back to full fitness and his confidence in his machinery was clear for ALL to see, show that there is more to come. As for his average, as long as it is determined using exactly the same method as all other 2016 EDRs then I don't give a flying fig what average he comes in on for Poole in 2017. As I've already stated, the team building points limit and who MF chooses to recruit for next season's 1-7 will dictate Kyle's starting position in the team - if he's the lowest averaged rider then he'll be in the number 6 or 7 position. If he isn't he won't be - he'll be in the 1-5. Simples.

So good to see that this year's Vinho Verde grape has produced a much stronger brew!!! 2 more days and I'll be experiencing it myself!!

Crashes and Cock-Ups 2015 - and every year before that. (Re-Run Productions)

How does revoking a promoter's licence treat supporters fairly exactly?

AGM is a 3-day meeting this year and its midweek - November 1st-3rd in Broxbourne at the National Speedway Museum.. Pre-AGM meetings are a regular thing, believe it or not, when all things are on the table and up for discussion. Usually there is a consensus of changes which Promoters are asked to take away and consider prior to the AGM. Buster is the new Chairman so it remains to be seen how 'strict' he is as to how the 3-day AGM runs. In the past there has been time for the EL and PL clubs to have their own separate meetings before coming back to the AGM table. Any AGM Agenda should usually only be a 'rubber-stamping' exercise with maybe only one or two 'extra' items added, but judging by the amount of dis-harmony referred to in the SS and elsewhere at the pre-meetings then I'm certain it won't be an easy, smooth meeting with 100% agreement.

There aren't enough decent Brit U23s for the EL 6 & 7 positions. One maybe - as long as the PL and NL play its part in bringing the young Brits on. But definitely worth a thread of its own rather than on Poole 2017?!

Well that is some twisted logic if ever I've seen some - even for Gavan?! 5.00 if he's a reserve or 4-4.5 if in the 1-5?! Absolute 'losing the plot b/s'!! Kyle's 2017 average will be reassessed in line with every other 2016 EDR to an agreed formula. Whatever it turns out to be, if he is the lowest average rider in Poole's 1-7 or 1-6 then he'll be number 6 or 7 in the line-up!! If Poole decide to bring in other riders with lower (assessed?) averages then he'll be in the 1-5 or he'll look very reluctantly elsewhere for a team place. Highly unlikely as MF has already virtually guaranteed him a Poole team place subject to any team building curveballs thrown up at the AGM. Assuming Chris rides UK - and he says he wants to - then he will ride where he can be reasonably close to his son. If his son is staying put in Ringwood then Chris will be back at Poole - unless there is a 'no GP riders' rule introduced.

Who is Rob Lyons? ;-)

Why on earth do people think the World's economic prosperity centres on the EU?! It doesn't! End of!

MJJ lets NKI through in heat 18 - the Danes ganging up on the Poles!!!

Always a silver lining in any situation - we get to see Jack Holder go for more GP points!! :-)

A different owner/promotion with new sponsors will undoubtedly change their race night for EL racing next year. Very interesting radio interview on the other thread.

Norrie Allan may well be looking for a new TM role?! ;-)

Good to hear from Dave Darcy. New sponsors, riders to be paid by end of the month. Something to be done for season ticket holders next year. More after the AGM. Well it all sounds good...........!!

Maybe we should ask mods to start a seperate 'Poole 2017' thread as all this talk on here of EDRs and 6-man teams with new race formats makes it seem as though Poole will have some additional influence over the rules and regs for next year?? ;-) ;-)

So just one meeting at Leicester next year then?! Shame for all Lions fans.

So not a big question then Worth about 50 quid for an idea!? Not bad at all really......

Such an increase in the number of EL teams is likely to preclude most GP riders from any involvement - partly because they don't want more fixtures unless there is a squad system, but also those teams stepping up are likely to retain their preferred racenight - Thurs/Fris and weekends!!!

Lets not forget Heat 15 which can often feature a Heat leader plus an in-form reserve!!

If ever a '2-point average' was introduced, why oh why would the British top tier of speedway want any rider - british or foreign - in at that level??

But that is not the Polish approach. Its that riders in Polish Ekstraliga can only ride in their 'domestic'* league plus one other!! (* For Aussies, 'domestic' would mean the British EL if they are domiciled here during the season)

Finally the message seems to be sinking in!! Can you point me in the direction of the official documented statement Gav - I don't seem to be able to find it?!