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Me too, that's why I see the need to at least give this a try.

I see your cup is half empty, have you actually seen the seals? Lets give it a chance, it's an attempt to cut costs and level the playing field. I applaud that and we can't just carry on getting into a worse state.

I suppose you could do that and I suppose the BSPA could refuse to allow you to use it in their events.

The whole point of them is that they'll go most of a full season without servicing. If you tamper with them and fit none standard parts, you'll doubtlessly shorten that span and you wouldn't be able to have them serviced by the factory or it's appointed agents. Two things might come of this, either they eventually become compulsory or GM and JAWA up their game and produce something comparable. The current system is unsustainable, both in terms of cost and the frequent attention needed.

You can't do that, they are sealed and any tampering makes them illegal to use. They are also being sold on a first come first served basis, irrespective of club.

So, you can now test one at Kings Lynn or Scunthorpe and buy one for less than £4,000 if you like them.

We used to take a newbie and stand right up against the fence (you could in those days) and when the riders came by we would duck, the newbie didn't know to do that. I suppose it was a sort of initiation. A full tic-tac box would be worth money at some of today's rather bald tracks.

Hope so. It must mean some meeting with loan engines or bulk ordering to reduce the price. I can't see them being anywhere near to having the production capacity for anything else yet.

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Yes, but the difference is, he probably wouldn't. Unless he reached veteran status or had a physical reason. We are of course just expressing our opinions and I know very little of Football or Gareth Bale (except of course how to spell his name).

But he does play for Wales.

'Tai being there' would more likely attract a bigger crowd and show his support and respect, especially after PK has been in his GP pit crew and doubtlessly taught him much in their earlier days as team mates. These decisions are all his to make of course, just as are opinions on them from the paying public.

On that we differ.

I didn't say otherwise. There should be a 'rule' but then again, national pride should dictate that a 'rule' isn't needed. I expect Swedes to ride in Sweden, Danes to ride in Denmark etc, that's what feels right to me and how I think things should be.

Because he's British.

This is already running on news and discussions.

I couldn't begin to compile any such list and my favourites are not always who I thought of as a member of the absolute elite. There have been many mentions of Jack Parker, they are well deserved and he covered such a long time span. A name not often mentioned but who also covered a long time span, is Aub Lawson, he was very popular and rode at the top level for so many years. I remember those two because they were such good battlers, often the multi-award winners were undoubtedly skillful but rather clinical and predictable, whereas I liked to see a good scrapper (only on the track of course).

I will make no other comment except that this is the right decision.

I thought it just one.

Couldn't 2) be Bellentry Feces?

Personally I don't watch it anyway, too many old crocks and career NL riders.

They don't indeed. what I mean is Speedway has no credibility whether this (joint) enterprise goes ahead or it doesn't.

And I thought a temporary promoter was to be put in place for up to three years, as agreed between the BSPA and the council. Unless you know something I don't.

Neither do a thousand and one other things, like in a TV meeting when there's practically no-one there and you saw half of the riders riding for another team, a week or two before.

Exactly.