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Alright then they are both liars! They don't need it, soon theirs will be the only professional league anyway, they are sewing it all up bit by bit, they already make riders miss meetings elsewhere to attend practice sessions at their Polish club, they already hold a quarter of the GPs and have a quarter of the riders, meanwhile Sweden is considering major pruning of their own leagues.

Having the same seven riders each week would help, irrespective of strength.

There are some clubs (Rye House and Leicester for starters) who claim that they can lose money or make less when they have to change from their regular race night. There is no compromise from other countries so why should clubs here be forced to change, many of whom are on tight budgets as it is?

True but why would he do that, unless he also got a Swedish place?

It never occurred to me that was the case, I always imagined that the UK counted as one. Interesting point if it happens.

He already rides in Poland.

I think most posters would agree to that.

If Chapman considered that the atmosphere among his team had been considerably soured, he had every right to do what he did, the timing might be an issue for some but personally I was surprised he kept Holder as long as he did, he'd been under-performing all season.

Something has to change, those figures are dreadful and a lot of people are finding them unacceptable.

I don't think that 'diluting' the strength of the leagues would be a big risk, there have been teams in lower leagues that were as well supported as those at the top. The two leagues are so near to each other now that it almost seems like preparation for one big league. That would certainly mean some diluting but I don't see why it couldn't be done successfully. Apart from the cost, the problem with the big names is availability and I think some clubs being forced to run on one particular night would be a bigger risk to their future than dropping a superstar.

One guy actually told me to do that, before issuing all kinds of threats and abuse. So I imagine reporting it would make little difference if he still has yet more cards up his sleeve.

Personally I think the majority of threads are started by people who just want to create more controversy or disillusion, any intention to do anything constructive is very much secondary. You wouldn't believe the threatening PMs and insults I've had on here, it's also surprising how many people seem to have multiple IDs, you block one and he comes back five minutes later with another name.

I suspect it would soon turn into a dictatorship or click, where anyone questioning or opposing their ideas, would soon be dismissed or ganged up on.

I would imagine a minimum of eight bikes, wasn't something like that happening when the Honda engines were being tried? Some flat track engines (450 motocross) can be fitted with a heavier flywheel, I believe there are some being used in UK flat track bikes now, so that would be another possibility, basically the F2 bikes that are still doing the rounds. There is also the 2 valve upright Jawa engine that has been developed, that's another possibility but you'd need a different diamond to accommodate them.

Yes they should but that doesn't mean that they should ignore the Holder situation.

True, lots of World Cups though.

Cheap reply! Anyway it wont happen because Poland have never shown any interest in anything but Polish Speedway and I'm sure they'd be very happy if all professional Speedway was Polish.

While it sounds ideal, some riders seem to be strongly opposed to it, when there was suggestion of the sealed GTRs being used in that manner there was a lot of opposition, mind you, if it ever did happen they would be forced to accept it. It might be good if a sponsor could be found so that some challenge matches could be tried.

Yes and Polish riders who have never been here still dominate them.

It probably is and I doubt there'd be a queue of applicants if he stood down.

Sorry but I just don't get this "develop some of their riders" why would they want one of their riders becoming adept at riding round something like Lakeside or some other mini track? It's hardly going to advantage their world domination aspirations, especially when the bulk of world events take place on Polish tracks or tracks that resemble them. Their rider development set up seems to be providing for their needs more than adequately already. Anyway I respect your idea, why not contact the chairman and ask for his opinion?

Why should the Poles be remotely interested ? Their ultimate aim is to swamp the GPs (they already hold a quarter of them and have a quarter of the riders) and most GP tracks, with a couple of exceptions, are big Polish type tracks, I can't see how it would benefit them and they have seemingly unlimited practice and coaching facilities to keep them busy anyway. I wouldn't be against it but I can't see it happening, they'd be more likely to link up with the Swedes if anything.

I doubt many promoters take in £25,000 on a race night.

He had no option but to go after Peterborough.

They have little option, you can't make a living riding there and getting a place and a visa anywhere but here isn't easy (not impossible though).