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Especially when you consider the state of some of the tracks, the need for extra equipment and the likely pay rates.

I agree to a point, the top eight and selected wildcards can be a bit of a closed shop. It seems that people assume that a rider with brilliant league form has some sort of right to be a GP rider. How about top ten and five qualifiers? This year was supposed to have the strongest line-up ever but the distance between top and bottom is still quite wide.

Bates has had some league racing in Poland, as has Adam Ellis. Both were world under 21 finalists last year, Ellis seems to ride abroad as much as he does here. They might not be world beaters but they are progressing.

Well the boy done well! eleven points, fourth place and one of those above is Dudek, so he'll likely be promoted from first reserve to qualifier. Lets all cheer for Dudek!

Brilliant stuff! well done Craig! This brings back the feel good factor.

I prefer not to read it again because it isn't legible, I'll leave it at that.

I doubt anyone would be left out if you eliminated doubling up.

Fully agree! He's come on very well this year.

While you can never fully predict what level any rider will ultimately reach, I share your confidence that at least some of that lot will be our stars of the future.

Well it's taken Cradley a few decades but there might just be a glimmer of light at the end of their particular tunnel, so good luck to the Bulldogs http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=84690

I would rather that than doubling up. Besides NL riders there are still others abroad who might welcome the chance of extra racing (Poole found one easily enough), there are two or three Americans keen to try over here and they haven't looked bad in the SWC. I think the six rider, five rides each format would be OK. I remember it being used about twenty odd years ago.

Whatever happens about race nights, there is still far too much doubling up anyway and restricting race nights might well allow that to continue. Six man teams and less double uppers is needed.

He should be for the chop, along with the five or six riders that Matt intends to dump, he's only any good if he has a winning side, this year has shown him up, he might be the local hero but he's had his day.

Sounds more like rider replacement

Yes.

Some have certainly done that in the past. Well you aren't going to get that and the NSS is quite near to dwellings and commercial buildings.

Yes, so has Danny. Davey guests, prepare for massive away win!

http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/5987/holder-no-regrets-over-safety Holder's response is about what you'd expect but it doesn't come across as doing him many favours, the appeal should be interesting anyway.

Agreed! I think if you put a new framework in place, the riders might grumble but I doubt many would actually quit.

Quite a few tracks hold training schools, Redcar have a few each year, Northside is solely a training track and Scunthorpe hold training schools and run amateur meetings throughout the winter.

If the clubs go bankrupt the riders will be out of work anyway. The current system of doubling-up and guests (four at Swindon tonight!) has robbed the sport of what little credibility it had. The idea of running the sport to suit the riders isn't working, the sport has to be run to suit the fans and they want their own settled teams and less guests. "Conference" and "Armature"? Actually your point about the "middle tier" is correct, why not just have one big league and be done with it?

We all have our own opinions, personally I'd prefer to see an end to doubling up and more places for NL riders and yes I do realise that some of them would struggle.

Poland might not be sticking to Sundays only, there have been quite a few midweek meetings this year and that might become a trend. As most clubs can't really afford a "top" rider, why bother?

It was and that's how it should be again if we are forced to have it. With rumours about Poland possibly moving the goalposts again and Sweden considering a league restructure, we might find a number of riders are as yet undecided about next season.

Because they create more wheelspin, so if you suddenly hit any grip they take off.