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You don't actually know what riders are paid and Swindon would have to scale down, so Mr Morris and others might find their options somewhat reduced and end up somewhere on even less, either that or start shelf stacking. Times are hard and the point of any changes should be to help clubs continue to survive. Having said that, it seems that a small number of Premiership clubs are resisting the idea, so the same old will continue and the strugglers will continue to fall by the wayside as yawning spectators find other amusements.

Why would it? The rumoured suggestion was that teams strengths be at Championship level, surely more different opponents would be a boost for everyone.

Well as he said it broke even and might have made a small profit, which is the truth? As for 'cooking the books' yes you can. Anyway everyone should hope that a buyer comes forward, sooner the better.

I agree totally, some seem to be clouded by wishful thinking but you can't blame them for that.

He actually said that it might have made a small profit, he also said it just about broke even.

Seen the books have you?

I thought the previous owner of Peterborough said it had never made a profit.

I think that the doubts about several clubs future's might play a part, if there is to be a second division it should have to be a gateway for young riders (say, two per club).

It removes credibility, If you're happy with it fair enough, in regard to Swindon; I shouldn't be surprised if nobody goes there in the near future.

If doubling up becomes the norm, support will continue to decline.

A lot of other clubs WOULD want it, that's why it has been considered at pre-AGM meetings.

That's how it used to be, I'm not saying it was better or worse but the wealthier clubs would keep changing riders and those dropped would be loaned to teams who had room for them. You did get periods of dominance by clubs such as Wembley and Belle Vue but you also had far bigger crowds and a lot of local media interest when the big names were in town. You also had better links between top league clubs and the lower leagues and second halves for those riders wanting to progress.

I never mentioned guarantees, some of us can remember the days when there were no guests or R/R.

It has allowed more doubling up though (I always cringe when they say on TV "he also rides for ....").

Well there are some strong opinions about guests, personally I think they are an abomination, true that under your idea you might see a closer match but it would (to me) seem pretty meaningless and I'm convinced that guests have driven away more people than they've attracted.

It sickens me when teams can bring guests in and then win on the strength of it.

Speedway must be made affordable for fans, riders and promoters. You can't keep chasing the tail of a country that gets ten times the crowds that we do and unlimited sponsorship due to it's high profile status. Look inward and make some moves, instead of talking about it but not implementing it.

F2 but they won't give it a serious try. You can fit a 450cc motocross engine (made by all the leading manufacturers) into existing frames and some of them will accept heavier flywheels if necessary. You would have better reliability, longer service intervals and hydraulic clutches that rarely need adjusting or new plates. This country needs to go it alone and forget pandering to the poles etc.

They might but it's worrying because there is obviously some conflict and the previously enthusiastic promoter has decided to quit.

http://redcarbears.co/2018/10/08/keay-steps-down-as-promoter/

There is a report on the SGB site that contains ....British Speedway vice-chairman Rob Godfrey said: “There was a serious risk of damaging the credibility of our sport because of the guest riders switching clubs after the first leg. So this doesn't damage it? Well I suppose it's down to personal opinion anyway. I reckon Poole have the momentum, bringing in Harris has transformed them.

I don't think he's over popular there these days, anyway it's a promoter they need.

We just get some good national TV publicity about Tai and then we get this rubbish, a Premiership final that anyone who still has a bike running can join in.

I don't, I think Iversen has been very poor all season.

Of course he's a director! I already posted a list of promoters and directors.