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Amazing how people defend basic stuff like him failing to get the scores right. Surely people are right to expect that very basic of things from a so called professional commentator?

Excellent final race, shame the screaming prat ruined the spectacle. And of course congratulations to the same tonight. From the 23 races he managed to restrict himself using the phrase 'here we go' at the start of each race to just 20 mentions. Not bad for a professional sports commentator hey.

Well if that is the case, he needs to change that! Yes he can take advice from his team, but he's the rider, he's the one who knows the conditions so it needs to be his final call on which gate to select. If he is the one selecting and getting it wrong he should perhaps take a closer look and analyse what his peers do in similar situations.

Looking back two GPs when he made a big thing about telling Doyley he's coming for him, he looks a bit silly now in the two GPs since.

Is it not all about getting the 'occasional' attendee in the area to give it a go ?

Sad, pathetic moron.... but just to educate you a little bit, just a little bit. It's 'You're' not 'your'... Newman you're a backstabber.

I love the irony of that! Poole fans complaining, don't like it when shoe on other foot!

So what's the excuse for the track every other week?

Doesn't mean I am not right though... he's used the same phrase 9 times! But then again, I know you won't have a word said against a fellow media peer. Woeful commentator with woeful, limited commentary ability... IMO.

4 races, but 8 starts and Pearson's used the phrase 'Here we go' from his limited stock commentary phrasebook 5 times.

Not done Doyle too much harm these last two seasons. His early season GP form was patchy, arguably because of a lack of meetings?

Oh memory flashback... My first car, an old blue Allegro. I passed my test on a Thursday and remember driving up the M1 that same evening to watch Long Eaton race at Sheffield. Burned so much oil in that 50 odd mile trip and would cut out at about 70mph dropping me back to about 30mph.... an inexperienced driver on a busy M1 in a dodgy car... I was totally relaxed... not!

Stop moaning.. £25 for two meetings is good value... even if one of them is a dead duck.

I like that idea, time to see the art of team riding put back into the sport.

The point is, if he can announce he is pulling out of the last two SWC because he wants to give the younger riders a chance (being the kind generous non-selfish man he is), then why can the same not be applied to the SGP by the race organisers? In the SGP he was only just in the top 8 by 2 points. He scored 7 in his last full GP before injury. Yes he may have climbed, but you can't assure me either that form would not have continued and he may well of dropped out of the top 8. Reading between the lines it looks like he will get the pick anyway. That doesn't meant it can't be challenged. Last night's GP was fantastic, Hancock was not missed.... so time to move on. He will rightly go down in the history books for being the rider with the most appearances and world titles, but a championship is meant to be ruthless and it can't be run on emotion and history books, it's time to allow someone else to make history, time to move on.

Are you there Philip?

It's late and I have had a 14 hour working day and tired so maybe I am reading wrong, but what's the difference? He didn't turn up and wasn't present amounts to the same thing doesn't it?

They didn't appear to that night.

He's taken the Hancock 'I am did this for the benefit of everyone else' approach.

I do wonder how much credibility this gives us to the casual BT Sport viewer when the presenters talk about this, and how a rider is riding for XYZ clubs during the next few days.

I would..... I wanted to know the rider was 'ours' and committed to my club and team. In the old days doubling up was not for every meeting, Perks main commitment would be Long Eaton and then he would do the odd doubling up for Cradley. It was never doubted that he Long Eaton committed first and foremost. (well at least it felt that way, I hope that was the case). These days I am not sure I would know if a rider who rode for a different club most nights was really bothered about my team or if this was just another earning opportunity for them. If I had a club, I know to some extent it's an earning opportunity, but I would want to feel that those 7 riders were committed to my club and team and that was their number one speedway priority.

Exactly. I spent season after season going to every single meeting, home and away watching Long Eaton, and it always felt like I was watching a team. These days I don't follow any club, because it's not my team.... reading this it seems like those of you with clubs to support still are also feeling the same, you have a club but no real team to support. Somebody posted a suggestion on another thread last week (I think), at the time I thought it was a silly suggestion but reflecting on this thread it makes sense, to reward teams with an average deduction for a rider for retaining that rider the following season. I guess one problem is that it's become a vicious cycle... allowing riders to ride for lots of clubs in the UK and abroad means they are getting injured because of more meetings, hence needing more guests and more r/r. I don't have an answer, hopefully the more intelligent on the forum do.

So many 'experts' on hear slagging Lynch off for not playing the stupid joker. It's so, so easy when you are not the one making the decision. Hindsight is so wonderful hey.

When I first started watching speedway in the early 80s, there was doubling up, but it actually worked. If memory serves, often the number one rider from the old National League side (in our case Dave Perks) would double up in reserve for a British League side (Cradley and I think then Coventry in Perks case). The national league side would retain priority of course. Of course there was a clear different in class between both leagues back then, and far less average overseas riders clogging up the British leagues. But the rider always felt like 'ours', Long Eaton's. It never felt like he was a travelling journeyman rider who was riding for a different club every night.

I gave one very good one on the other thread beyond this seasons performance, his age. Just you are so obtuse you choose to dismiss my opinion as childish... An approach you take on the forum a little bit too frequent. Trying 'listening' to other users occasionally.