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Hey PaulCo have there been guys who've signed for other teams who now will not or cannot now come due to visa problems? If yes = who?

The length of time to officially sign Joey seems a wee bit odd.................I was sure that the last two riders would be announced as a pair and that the delay would be in signing the other guy and not Joey. I always felt that Joey had been told off-the-bat "you're in as long as we can use up all the other points on six other decent (or potentially decent) guys". I wonder if he's had an offer from elsewhere and the promotions hand was forced? We'll probably never know. I'd still want all the remaining points to be used up......................and not an assessed 7.00 novice please, no thanks. I know he's very much splitting opinions on here but I'd still be reasonably happy with Mark Lemon. Yes he'll never (probably) be a 9.00+ rider again but he'd do a steady middle order 6.50-7.00, and he'd been good at mentoring Dimitri and Joey.

Why on earth are ppl discussing a Berwick rider on the Glasgow thread? There is a Berwick thread for that. It's not even David Bell@@o!!

Lanham and Ringwood would be too many points by my calculations. Lanham finished on 7.16 and Ringwood on 3.56 making 10.72 and we've only got 10.66 to play with.

I feel like a real party pooper but I am not sure if everyone is just trying to be ultra hip and post modern and playing along but that Stewart Dickson Twitter account is a parody. It's really funny and occasionally it is insightful. I am posting this again for those technophobes.

Eh we do know this is a parody account on Twitter? It is hilarious though and occasionally very insightful

I would agree with re-signing Joey but I would prefer the 7th signing to be someone with a proper average. The young French fella on 5.00 should be the only assessed rider this year please.

Twenty meetings at £16 would be £320 - so there's the obvious possibility of a Glasgow season ticket actually costing more than just paying at the gate. That is zero insentive for anyone new to the sport. As has been reported the Glasgow promotion lost £50,000 last season so I can't blame them for trying to balance the books a bit more this coming campaign. In fact it'd be derelect in their duties if they did not but does this really exaplain a season ticket costing more than just pay at the gate?

I see Peterborough season tickets being quoted at £250 compared with Glasgow price of £340 for online sale after 5th January. Now that is a difference.

Yes that's right. There might be a pan European database somewhere but I don't know the answer to that one Also you might need to look a bit further back in time other than the FINAL list too to see guys who got dropped and / or were injured. For example, our old fave, Kauko Nieminen doesn't appear on the FINAL list for Leicester as he was injured August. Calm down, he's too much I'm afraid haha.

http://www.speedwaygb.co/plteamissues13.html If you click on the above link and then select "ISSUE FINAL" it gives you a .pdf file of all the PL GSAs at the end of last season so that'll be what they are at the start of next season - reductions due for British riders of ??% for the 3 consecutive seasons after obtaining a "proper" average. You'll need to do a wee bit of searching up and down the file but they're all there You should be able to find a similar list of GSA for EL riders too once you've found the PL one. I believe the multiplication factor for EL doubling down to PL is *1.5 ie EL = 5 is PL = 5 * 1.5 = 7.5.

It cannae be Bager. If it was Bager he'd have bitten our promotion's hand off because nobody else will be persuing him as a proactive selection. If we only had 5.30 left then that'd be a different story. Bager & Ringwood being the last two selections would turn a very good looking team (so far) into a mediocre looking one, on paper. I could not agree more with you Heather..............use up every single decimal point of the allowed limit if possible. A N Other on 7.00 ( but please not an asssessed ) + Ringwood would keep up the standard and promise of the 5 signed already. Bager & Ringwood makes a very very very long tail. No thanks

What is the rule atm for Elite Riders doubling down? Is doubling down allowed at all? I know that the rule was that you were allowed to double up but not double down. The reason that I am asking is that with the new rule about Elite reserves being N(F )L draft picks then there may be some Elite assets, more likely reserves and second strings, from 2013 teams without an EL ride. For example, Jacob Thorsell at Wolves. In actual fact Jacob does have a team place in Wolves EL team for next season but he won't have a PL team to double up from - if you follow me - as he's a EL asset not a PL asset. If the EL to PL GSA conversion was EL * 1.5 = PL then Thorsell's would be 4.61 * 1.5 = 6.92. We've got 10.66 left to play with. Thorsell 6.92 + Ringwood 3.56 = 10.48 Now.......after all that........... I am not particularly advocating Thorsell, as I actually know next to nothing about him ( he may even have a Polish team ) but if he's got to fly in for Wolves fixtures on a Monday night then there could be some cost sharing agreed and I would have thought Wolves would be keen for him to get lots of racing time and practise in the UK and some confidence building results.

I don't think that Joey has necessarily put pen-to-paper but he will probably have been the very first to be told "you're in if we can fit you in". If we can't get someone to use up the vast majority of the remaining 7.10 to be complimented by Ringwood's 3.56 then we'll need to change tact. All things being equal it would not have been preferrable to start the young french fella in the main body of the team.

Is this "new format" just for the EL? Not the PL too? I must admit I totally missed this in the SCB statement after the AGM. I knew about the "draft" reserves from the NL. If it brings on young British riders then it's got to be a good thing..............eventually. I don't follow an EL team anyway.

Fisher has signed for Coventry http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.23265 I can't see him doubling down (if that's even allowed these days - who knows?) I know he's entertaining but he's really too much of a bampot for me >

This is an interesting question - to which I do not know the answer - however let's for a moment speculate that this is / was true..........does it have to be the programmed referee who makes the decision or could the SCB referee who lives closest to the track be called to attend?

Thanks Phil....you mean stay at 5PM I presume Since my post I've been emailing with a guy from BSI / IMG and his final response to my query regarding when they could confirm the start time for definite: "Unfortunately I couldn’t guess- but as a rough guide, we only announced the start time of the 2013 event around one month before the race." Credit to him for replying but his last statement isn't accurate is it? My recollection is that the earliest publicity material for the 2013 GB SGP confirmed that the start time would be staying at 17:00

I see on "t*cketmaster" that the tapes up time for the British SGP is listed as 19:00. Has the GB SGP reverted to 7pm from 5pm or is this just "t*cketmaster" not having a clue about speedway?

Would it not have made better business sense to budget for a break even figure of 550 ish instead of 750 ish? This way any more than 550 is profit and not that any less than 750 is a loss. I wish the new promotion very well but it's disappointing to see the begging bowl out again. If you're taking on a business you should have a modest break even figure. Shoot high aim low?

How's the weather looking? Very damp in sunny paisley :-(

I thought the first post said ^Dodgy^ men and thought ^what's new?^ :-P