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Correct. Wolves had a Scott Nichols sized spot available. Whats even more perplexing is that would have been a really good signing (for Wolves) on that average. Instead they’ve opted for youth and gone in under the limit. Very odd.

At the end of the day, Wolves are 2 points below the limit. No other team have done that. Had you signed Scott, you’d have been up to the limit allowed for team building purposes. My argument is that nobody else has been in a position to fit him in as it currently stands, all completed teams are up to the points limit. Perhaps I should have worded the first post a little different.

It would have been a straight forward situation. Nichols instead of Broc. They would have been up to the limit that way with a track specialist to boot. Instead they’ve opted for an untested young rider and gone under the building limit. It makes no sense to me.

Not bias, just an opinion. It’s how I see it. Like I said to Steve, let’s revisit this in 10 months time.

I’d have to check the numbers. A prime Killer vs a prime Batchelor, think there would be little in it personally.

I only have an issue with it based upon the fact that wolves have built 2 points under the limit. They didn’t have to do that. BV did not.

Correct. Doyle v Kurtz won’t be a comparison again this season because Jason is just so much better, but killer vs batch most certainly will be as the season goes on. Jensen v Wright. Absolutely nothing in it when you look at the context. Swindon have a much better number one, but 2nd and 3rd heat leader there is nothing between them in my opinion. I think PK and Wright will be as strong as TB and RJ.

Because you are not looking at the context of the situation. You are looking at averages. I agree, on paper, there is a clear and present gap but numbers alone don’t tell us the whole story. If we are using the form of Kildemand on the continent, which we shouldn’t be, then we could introduce another angle altogether on this. Killer has been a better rider abroad than Batchelor over the last 5 years. Very difficult to pass judgment on a rider who hasn’t ridden here for a long time. Its purely speculative and as it stands I have no way of measuring Killer against Batchelor, I can only say that in my opinion, if he gets to the level he has been previous, that he will be in and around the figure of Troy at the season end.

A very balanced and fair post.

At least it’s consistent, they know the set up and can pretty much guarantee a pay packet. As much as they may dislike it, change it and suddenly that home form goes. Kings lynn has a great shape and imo should be one of the better racing tracks in this country. It’s ideal for the modern machine but unfortunately stocks take priority. Thats the money spinner.

I think Scott is overweight (for a speedway rider) He needs a track where he can still get paid and by that I mean a track where technical ability means more than speed, because he isn’t quick enough anymore on the bigger tracks. Why Wolves didn’t jump on him is beyond me. Put a lot of faith into Nichol and I don’t like that when it’s at the expense of a long serving and well respected British rider.

Away it will be more than 25 with those 2nd strings. Jorgensen and Kerr don't look like they can step up to me and that is a big problem for this king's Lynn team. When you look at Swindon and BV they have 2nd strings who you could argue a case for in that they could step up as the season makes progress. Bewley and Ellis are capable riders and you could see them both as potential 3rd heat leaders. KL are VERY reliant on that top 3 and it's going to hurt. If one drops off, and I'm relating to away form here, then more spankings on the road will be par for the course. Much like 2019. Last thing KL need to do btw is change the material on the track. They've got it down and keeps the home record solid.

From his starting position in the team, which will likely be 2nd string, I'd be disappointed if he didn't arrive at those figures you've stated. The problem recently with Andersen is he is constantly getting hurt. That has a big say. He's going to need to stay fit and healthy next season.

Context is everything. Wright may be a point away, but he ridden the entire season as a heat leader. It's a bit like the masters debate a few of us had not long ago. At the end of the day the averages don't lie but it's very circumstantial. Wright has been steadily developing season upon season and I think there is another point in him, whereas with Jensen, I think he'll lose a point. My argument is that there is little between them when you look at the context of how those averages were attained. Let's look at the numbers in 10 months time.

I don't think it's brave, I think it's a logical way to look at it. There is a 1.3 difference between them, but as I've said previously Wright was either 1/3/5 across a full season pretty much. I think he had a tougher gig than Jensen. Time will tell, but I think by the season end they will be in and around the same ball park.

Jensen last season was a revelation. This season is going to be really, really tough for him.

I'd have to double check but I understood he started there. I may well be wrong on that one. Jensen came out of nowhere. He was a steady 2nd Division rider, so to come into that Swindon team and do what he did was more than surprising. He started on a low average so it was always going to increase, but at the end of the season I genuinely thought he'd ridden himself out of a team place so fair kop to Swindon for sticking by him. Personally I just don't see him keeping that average.

As I’ve said above, Jensen got that average as a combination of reserve/2nd string and heat leader. It’s a massive season for him and with the length of that Swindon tail, I think it’s a huge risk asking him to maintain that average as a now fully fledged heat leader. Wright had different circumstances and got that average in an entirely different way, much harder circumstances. Kildemand is a huge gamble, but a very talented rider all the same and historically has ridden at a higher level than Batchelor. In the uk as it stands I agree, batch gets the nod, but let’s revisit that at the end of the season. And at the risk of repeating myself, belle vue have no tail. They have strong reserves and decent 2nd strings, that puts them in a better place than Swindon. That said, Swindon marginally take the heat leader call but overall, there is nothing between the 2 teams and I actually think BV are a little better. It’s all immaterial though, because Swindon will without doubt make changes like last season and that shifts the whole thing, because at the point they will become clear favourites. Rossiter is very good at that. But right now in this moment, both BV and Swindon are clear favourites. All in my opinion of course ;-)

Bet my bottom dollar wright finishes with a higher average than Jensen. Jensen is in a difficult spot now, his average is only going 1 way. Weight got his average as a heat leader and number 1 for a while. Kildemand has been poor but that’s not the real version of him. If he rediscovers his form, there will be nothing between him and Batchelor. Doyle is head and shoulders above the rest of the league so no comparison. Beneath that I think BV are stronger with better reserves, and equal 2nd strings.

Like I said to the last poster, it's an opinion. I couldn't give 2 hoots about BV. I've long since argued on here that my priority is speedway rarther than clubs. I watch BV because I'm Mancunian but have no fan type of allegiance. I watch many teams and just generally enjoy Motorsport be it 2 or 4 wheels. I have no bias and for the last time it's just an opinion so let's stop with the flippant remarks. It's very, very childish.

It's an opinion. The beauty of a forum. For the record I think your take on it absolute tripe, but opinions! We all av em'

Doyle is a much stronger number 1 than Kurtz. Absolutely nothing between Wright/Killer and Batch/Jensen. In fact Jensen will struggle to keep that average. Below that BV are much stronger. 2 top teams whichever way it’s dressed and will be cut free from the rest of the league.

Swindon and Belle Vue are a clear top 2. I'd think the odds will reflect this. Sheffield will make them. After that it's anyone's guess, although I'm pretty certain KL will be bottom.

It's not a strategy. They wanted Hancock or Lindgren. It failed. They got Masters. Still better than the King's Lynn team though.

Quote me directly soft un'.