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It hasn't but Craig is an absolute tool for turning it all down. He is too big for his boots sometimes and whilst I can understand his point (although he completely contradicted himself when asking for more money-makes his sponsor stance void) that doesn't excuse the stupidity of turning down a seat somewhere.

I'll bang it wherever I like. This is a public forum, so you do me a favour now and don't tell me where and when to post. Much obliged.

I don't think Peterborough had a number 1 before the changes either. I was banging the drum and banging the drum. It was an old team. It's got worse now and unless you can find a way to move Lasse back to reserve, probably keep summers and bin Barker, and actually go get a number 1 then you will be fighting Ipswich for the spoon.

That’s counter productive.

I know. Was just a dig at buster and his reasoning for not paying kk what he wanted. Kenneth will have a number of poor meetings but for buster to quantify his under payment as him not being a heat leader is not only disrespectfu, its neglegent Thankfully teams like bv are willing to pay the going rate to keep a rider like Ken in this country

That's a shame. You should support Peterborough

The ultimate #### you and well done Kenny! Take your medicine buster lad

I told you 3 months ago. Tungate is as good as Bomber. Summers half decent but not a patch on cook. That said I've seen cook first hand for 8 years and hes vastly over rated. Youd have lost tonight with them. Yes you've lost riders but we still did you at half mast. I said at the start of the season these 2 teams were worlds apart and I glad it's now been put on a race circuit.

It's a garbage Peterborough team and wouldn't have been much different with Chris or Craig. There is not a prayer they are making the play offs. We've beat you at half pace. Christ knows what would have happened with us in full swing. I'm glad we have actually got a race down on the circuit to help elaborate on the point I was trying to make 3 months ago! Changes or no changes

I'll get the 'but we've had to change to our team' and its 'early season' But I told you so.

Cheers Phil. Was looking forward to watching Lidsey but will get the chance soon enough

I don’t think it’s crap. Relative to the UK currently it’s a decent enough line up and these PC meetings have always been really, really good. The 2017 one was out of this world with a very similar line up. I would go so far as saying that is the best speedway meeting I have watched live. The racing from heat 1 throughout was off the chart. When it’s like that I don’t think the line up really matters.

Full line up in now. To be fair, its actually not a bad line up at all. Where is wells though? And I thought Sedgman was in the Berwick meeting?

What’s the line up

Any chance we can get back on topic? Whats the betting Berge is gone after 1 meeting? And who will replace him?

Without checking I couldn’t tell you but you make a good point. 9k in the grand scheme of the whole series is fine. The issue isn’t crowd size, it’s costs. A lot of which lands at the door of BV where BSI won’t pay. The World Cup cost a fortune.

It’s declining because they are inside dog tracks with astronomical rents. Your right about the safety fence, unfortunately the design of the whole thing means it’ll never happen. It should, though, have been part of the initial planning and build. Absolutely ludicrous decision to exclude it.

It’s more than big enough. It holds 9k with temp seating, many gps on circuits gone by have held less capacity. Teterow being a prime case. There is this weird obsession around the size of the stadium in retrospect for a GP. I just don’t understand it. It’s going to compliment Cardiff, not replace it. 9K is absolutely suffice.

Probably about the same as the dog track proved. I’d say the increase is marginal in terms of footfall. Fully agree with what your saying about multi use. I’d add simply 2 words. Stock cars

That’s just the council penny pinching in a people funded project. It’s absolutely natural in that they need to control costs. Unfortunately the stadium isn’t self sufficient and doesn’t know yet, how to pay for itself. For as long as that remains the case, it will remain a skeleton in some parts. A huge, uncontrollable cost in this project is the rent and has been all along. When you commit so much money out of the tax payers pocket to build it, it absolutely needs to deliver and do so very quickly. The council have covered their end, and that is to the detriment of the clubs owners who have again found themselves severely out of pocket. I would love to the see the groundwork in terms of how they will actually make this venture pay in a sport with ever rising costs and increasingly declining footfall.

It’ll not survive in a semi pro environment, certainly not on a large scale. There is just too much cost involved now. It will become an elite sport for rich people, literally being watched on grass routes. The only way it can work on a grander scale is by putting bums on seats and increasing revenue, but the reputation is so shot now we have long passed any chance of actually growing the product. Its a bag waiting to go in the trash can.

I can’t agree with that. I fully understand why your saying it, but I don’t think it matters anymore. The sport here has been so grossly mismanaged, the quality of racing matters not a jot. The sport itself. What it represents. Everything it does. It’s done. BV have had this venue for 3 seasons, arguably the best track on the planet, in a huge catchment area and it’s done the grand total of f&£k all except cost the tax payer money. It’s a white elephant and paints a really accurate picture of the absolute mess speedway is in on these shores.

I don’t think barren years will matter. BV supporters are used to it, and we have managed to maintain reasonable levels over the last decade. Unfortunately speedway just doesn’t have the pull. For the majority of people it’s boring and not worth the investment. The catchment area etc doesn’t really matter. It’s the same for many clubs. I think an average attendance of 1.5k is an astonishing achievement, I really do, given the absolute mess this sport is currently in.

The crowds were far from poor in respect of what a decent speedway crowd looks like today. No official attendance records are ever published but like I said countless times last year, it’s pretty easy to guess at the NSS. I would say we averaged around 1.5k which certainly isn’t poor. It’s probably one of the highest in the uk. The rent is high but nothing like it was in the first season. It was renegotiated. That said, the losses last season would be 5 figures I’m pretty sure of that.

He will because I think he’ll be in the reserve berth at the first set of averages.