Pinny

No, people have a problem because its usually the ones that should be kept that aren’t and vice versa. Lets be honest, Lynn have turned into a shambles of a club at the top level.

Brennan superb , I would agree Kemp has stalled if not gone backwards. Flint is progressing nicely in the Championship, come on a lot this year.

Shovlar again doing himself no favours, got whacked just admit it and move on. Shame someone doesn’t whack Trackrat come to think of it.

Riss really has gone backwards when it looked like he would go on to be a superb rider. Shame.

Fair comment. Blaming Redcar if Brum close next season is ridiculous on their part. The current promotion and management there this year have been dreadful in all honesty.

Birmingham have been a farce this season on the whole but going off some Redcar fans comments anyone would think they have had the perfect club for years on end, have they forgotten they were the laughing stock of the middle tier under Havelock????

Same as quite a few teams too, remember Trelawny with Harris, Zagar , Sanchez, Masters , we had Iversen, Watson, Smart, Atkin , god compare that with what you get now. As said many times, the watering down of the leagues has seen the crowds drop at the same rate.

I remember having a debate with BWitcher on here only a couple of years ago where he was trying to tell me that if you put the likes of Ricky Wells and Kyle Howarth in the second tier twenty years ago, they'd of been the top men. Lol. As said, the second tier looks so strong now because any decent rider has given up on the UK and the top tier has to find its riders from somewhere. Both leagues are in a mess. I think in the early 2000's there was EIGHTEEN teams in the Premier League. A Premier trophy group of 4/5, KO cup ties and a league match home and away vs each team. It was a rare occurrence to have a blank raceday throughout the season except for weather. It was an action packed season. You seen the top riders every week and it was nowhere near as common for riders to be missing. The doubling up system was brought in where an Elite League club could use two Premier League riders to fill one position. It seemed to work pretty well for a while. We have been through how great those days were so many times and no doubt will continue to do so. Sadly, the sport will never go back to those days. Its just dying a slow, painful death.

Agreed. You had the likes of Gjedde and NKI riding as second or third heatleaders in the premier whilst winning world cup medals , it was a superb product.

The top tier has seen any decent foreigner as well as our top two riders leave , so rather than our second tier being really strong its more a case of the top tier getting weak. I have said before and will say it again, the old school Premier league was a much better product than the second tier now. Much better and quality of riders much better too

Im sure when visiting around 2000/2001/2002 with Newport the crowds were more than decent? that would of been when Bjarne and Bjerre were there , rememeber a meeting gettint fogged off after 10(?) heats with Wato and Smart unbeaten then we got well beaten in the rematch no doubt THJ or Tsunami will have more details. The management knew with Smart and Watson out in heats 13 and 15 they had no chance.

Certainly did, although it can be argued there is no big hitter in that Scunthorpe side. I do have a feeling Summers will move clubs this winter and be a snip on that average though.

Actually though Nicki Pedersens first world title and Crumps first one or two they didn’t necessarily look miles quicker than anyone else and was more down to track craft. For what its worth, I think Rickardsson had brilliant track craft and is the best rider i have been by a long way since 1998 but there was one year which i forget where he looked like his bikes were 700 ccs!

Andersen could be a massive trump card come play offs, will he still be at reserve?

Same engines for everyone would be the way to go but I am sure even if that was done , there would be ways around it. sadly in motorsport a lot of the time, well infact nearly always, the boys with the top kit come out on top. Look at Mercedes in the f1, the motogps, speedway over the years as well. There was a stage when even Rickardssons bikes looked massively faster than anothers bikes in the GPs.

Isnt he the old drip who does/used to do the announcing at Berwick?

Cant say nothing bad unless it suits Trees , as proved time and time again.

Fully applaud the Plymouth promotion this year , have just got on with things despite some expected poor results and seem to be thriving. If they can get Barker back as well , they have a superb basis for a team next year. I am sure if hes banging in huge scores at home each week, his away form will improve as well. What average would Crump be on next season?

Mad to think its been over 8 years since I attended a GP in Cardiff but would be mad to move it. Bang in the middle of the city , brilliant day out and usually pretty good event as a whole.

Exactly right, people thinking the current crop are set for huge things because their beating eachother in the UK leagues are dreaming. Fair play to Lambert and Bewley, they went abroad and stuck at it and are reaping the rewards. Staying in the UK with the odd under 21's meeting abroad will do nothing to improve them.

A few of them did get Swedish experience in their teens abroad - Appleton regularly went to NZ and Sweden whilst Allen and Stead were always abroad riding.

I remember the likes of Stead, Howe, Neath, Brady, Appleton, Allen to name a few being much more competitive in a stronger second tier and all having much more ability than the current crop and how many of them went on to be better than at best a good second string in the top tier? Thats not a dig at any of them either before anyone starts. Just what people expected of them . Then you have Kennett and Bridger too. I actually agree with Daniel Smith… our future on the world stage looks very bleak.

If the beer is watered down then yes youd hundred percent want to pay less.

Nicholls still absolute class even at his age, what an absolute credit to Uk speedway he has been. A fair few of these Aussies could take a leaf out of his book Be a very sad day when he calls it a day.

How clubs thought crowds would rocket after covid is a madness, surely theyd know fans pockets would be tighter than ever after a world wide crisis?