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Bjarne Pedersen maximum anyone?

Dont have a clue? Lol. Your the Poole resident clown since Starman has vanished.

If it wasnt for Mole , Workington would never of returned when they did and Birmingham wouldnt of in the mid 2000’s either.

You on about the one who loved Kurtz when at Poole now does nothing bad slate him since he went to BV? The biggest cringe of them all.

Shovlar and co showing themselves up saying they should of won. Why is Havelock your manager surely there is someone else out there better for the job? still think Poole will be there or there abouts , i would imagine the new Dane would be good for about 5 pts a meeting.

And to think a couple of years ago, I was having a discussion on here with people regarding the strength of the Premier League/Championnship and how it was much stronger back in the day than these days. I was then laughed at and told Kyle Howarth , Ricky Wells et all would of averaged 10 point figures in the company of Wilson, Stonehewer, Carr, Watson, Schott etc Be interesting if someone could drag that thread back up.

Gollob was nowhere near good enough and consistent enough during the Rickardsson/Crump/Pedersen era to get close to dominating. Put him on a big wide track with rockets underneath him and he was superb to watch, however as proven season upon season, he wasn't consistent enough to win a world title until Rickardsson had retired, Crump and Pedersen were passed their peak and the overall quality in the line up was well below the standards of previous seasons. I actually liked Gollob a lot, in full flight a joy to watch and had that aura about him. But to consider him in the same breath as the likes of Ricko, Pedersen, Crump, Hancock is ridiculous.

Awesome. Even better after his ban than before too.

The gap has got smaller year on year and is now closer than ever and until the top boys get enticed to come back, the gap will only close more.

At least they are trying something. Heeps has been absolutely pathetic all season.

Just read the other day that 10k kept them going for a couple of meetings, surely cant be doing that all season ?? In all honesty when back at home i never had near enough money to even help save Newport but dont think many did, crowds were appalling . And yeah grumpy AF as we have just entered lockdown 6.0 because of 8 cases.

Pathetic to be asking this of their fans in all honesty.

Ps who is Freddie? Or did you mean Frank Smart ha

I only loved the middle tier cos thats what I was brought up on and only ever seen every week as well as the Mavericks in the conference but for me those Premier League days with the likes of giedde stoney carr wilson wato cunningham Coles. Pickering etc were brilliant days even when we lost most weeks, a long long way ahead of what we are seeing these days.

Most passes at Edin are done by away riders moving off the line and being passed by the home rider. Its how the sport works. If all away riders stayed on the right line then it would be rare the home riders got by them. most racing is produced from away riders gating , getting in front then hitting the wrong line then the home riders getting through.

Can see Poole winning the league to be fair be interesting to see Shovvys thoughts on the second tier now , he seems well into it given his input on here .

You set yourself up for that Blobby, most passes wouldnt happen if the rider being passed rode a better line. What a ridiculous comment from you

Isnt HGould a Birmingham fan? He will be used to seeing concrete soon if the rumours about Birmingham are correct .

I find it baffling how the Birmingham and Newcastle promotions have got the begging bowls out and expect it to work. I remember the Mallett's done it at Newport and were slaughtered for it. I never agreed with it and always thought there were other ways to try and get fans through the gate. I read somewhere that Newcastle raised 10000 quid which kept them afloat for a couple of meetings. Surely the promotion there would of known the costs involved before committing to the venture? In a time where the whole world has been rocked financially, demanding fans turn up and threatening with closure if not is appalling. Especially with the prices still the same.

Plus , the 4tt qualifiers brought in three sets of away fans to a home venue instead of just one. Always good crowds.

Bring back the 4TT qualifiers and the Golden/Silver/Bronze helmet races too. Another thing gone that has aligned with a major decline.

The thing is even a lot of the current speedway fans can't accept the world is moving forward to. Mainly the older fans refuse to use social media (and love to make a point of stating it) and therefore demand that club websites should be the first place exclusive news appears. Social media is the place to be these days and youngsters are glued to it and this is why clubs announce a lot of news on social media rather than websites first. The whole product needs dragging into the 21st century there is no doubt about it.

Another thing that struck me as lunacy is that some people reckon that 12 quid was a good price for a middle tier live stream. I find that baffling when you compare that to what you pay for streaming services such as Netflix, I pay I think $14 a month for Netflix which is about 7-8 pounds sterling. That is what you call good value. As people have been stating on various threads I have been viewing, two adults to attend a Premiership meeting with a couple of drinks each and some food is in excess of 50 quid. You cannot be demanding these prices when none of the worlds top riders ride here anymore.

With up to date, fashionable merchandise. Get with the times, as someone said make tracksuits, gym wear, snapback hats etc. Your not going to see youngsters walking round in Wulfsport jackets anymore.

In my opinion promoters in general are just as much to blame for the sport going on such a huge decline as anyone. Its their product to sell each week and very few do a good enough job. Admittedly I have never been a speedway promoter and never will be, but I wouldn't invest in a speedway club and expect handouts to keep the club going. What I have seen recently is a couple of Championship clubs having the begging bowl out for money to help them through the season as well as threatening to close down because the fans aren't packing into the stadiums. And those clubs are clubs with new promoters over the last couple of years who have never promoted before. The value for money just isn't there. On average around two hours stood around watching 15 heats of speedway, overpriced food and drink, barely anything going on between the heats and more often than not being stood in freezing cold conditions listening to completely out dated music. Add that with poor stadiums that look older than the average pensioner and processional racing on track and its clear to see why there are no fans coming through the gate. I absolutely love speedway, admittedly no where near as much as when I attended Newport regular before we shut down and I moved to Aus, so I am not one that wants to see the sport fail and cease to exist. But I really do think that the sport has been driven that far into the ground (in Britain) that it is beyond a state of repair. It would take a miracle of epic proportions to revive the sport in the UK, IMO. I remember the beginning of the end being when Rickardsson quit Poole after a few meetings one season, I think it was the season they brought the grading system into the Elite League. Ever since, the quality has got weaker and weaker, prices have gone up and up and ultimately, crowds have gone down and down.