Pinny

Ashworth isnt a gamble and if you read back, many teams would of liked to see him in their colours. Dont forget, he will be second heatleader at Plymouth. The Devils do not look that bad and it is a massive improvement on 2011's side... Bowden has many faults but he has strengthened his side for 2012.

Plymouth actually look OK... Barker and Ashworth is a very decent top two, Glanz appears to be pretty handy around there, Boxall isnt a bad rider and if Werner still has his gating head on, he wont be as bad as expected around Plymouth although I expect him to be dreadful away. There are a fair few worse teams in the PL... fact.

In fairness the addition of Doyle and Sedgmen replacing Nilsson and Davies was what turned our season around somewhat... 5 straight home defeats and then Doyle and Sedgmen signed and we ran Edinburgh and Ipswich in particular close away before beating Sheffield at home for our first home win. The signing of Gjedde for Legault was basically the icing on the cake, effectively replacing a 7 point man with a rider who went on to average in excess of 10 for the Wasps. But had we kept the same team with Gjedde for Legault (Lanham, Nilsson, Gjedde, Aspegren, Jones, Davies and Kurtz), we wouldnt have been anywhere near the force that we went on to be at the end of the season. Therefore Doyle and Sedgmen (for the first few meetings before he dropped off and was replaced by Mellgren) have just a big a part to play as Gjedde, IMO.

Your constant biting when Newport are tipped to be outside the top 6 is what is embarrasing, just let it go over your head!

Ignore NWS... his posts are embarrasing. FWIW, I reckon Edin, Sheffield and Glasgow for the bottom 3. Sheffields team stands out as being the weakest... Franc and Hall as a top two is dreadful, both third heatleaders although I suppose there could be a good argument that Franc is a second heatleader. I feel Haines is finished and Jakobsen is nothing special although he always scores well at Newport, then again until 2011 most riders did.

I also have no idea why this topic has resurfaced quoting a post that was posted almost a year ago.

Thanks Dicey. I work quite often away from home now which limits my access to a PC at weekends which isn't much of an issue throughout the winter, it is during the season when it becomes an issue. A few people have offered help but it isn't as simple as turning a PC on an editting the site... you need to completely know what to do and you need a good feel for the site, i.e not just writing in any old colour or font. We have 3 more months to fully resolve this issue so fingers crossed.

Site is ready for 2012 season... no 2011 reports, profiles or stats will be used on the website from now on . I suggest you email Laurence Rogers if you would like a complete run down of stats.

The question is, which rider will go missing first? Werner, Glanz or Boxall?

watson and smart

Brainless team building from Silver. Could hoof out Hawkins and bring a 7.5ish rider in which would probably make Rye a top 4 side, instead they look nothing more than average. Why he persists with Bowen year on year is anyones guess.

I agree that whilst the PL top end is not as strong as it was, the lower end is much stronger than before. 42.5 without bonus is not far off 45.0 with bonus, so the PL isn't weaker than before. The EL, however. Well that's a different story!

I can - its a well known fact that Polish workers come here and are happy to settle for half the price a Brit will ! I would hazard a guess that except your world class Poles, the second rate ones that Ippo and Newport for example used to sign were fairly cheap !

I think bridger is the type who will ride as much as possible... He will make mega money riding PL and EL and as long as he is allowed to do it, he will, same as barker. I'd quite like to see the likes of bridger and stead to drop down next year, personally.

Like joe screen who came in on 12 yet just scraped a 9 point figure, he's been a fine addition to the PL!

As much as I despise bridger, he'd quite easily attain a 9+ PL average.

Bit of a weird thing to say, Holder has finished in the top 8 twice now out of two attempts and has already won at cardiff. Emil was 3rd in his opening year, had an injury plagued second year and was 6th this year. Both have been fine additions to the series and I have no doubt Darcy would be equally as impressive as those pair now. Think he would make the top 8 in 2012 should he take part.

In all honesty I think both promotions will just want to get this final fixture out of the way. I don't think either side are taking it too serious really, Scunny haven't bothered splashing out on a guest for their #1 and Newport are not fielding their number one, despite him riding lastnight for the Wasps. Should be a huge Newport win I would imagine and like someone said, if Herne doesn't get a max I would be stunned.

The GP series must pay well enough, other wise the likes of PePe and Bjarne wouldn't be desparate to get back in there. They both surely know that even a top 8 place is highly unlikely, so why would they want to be part of the series, knowing they are 95% likely to be placed in the lower ranks come the end of the series, if it wasn't worth their while?

me too!!!

You can also add Tai to the not up to it list... infact can add any of the Brits you mentioned to that list.

Anyone with a decent stream? The one previously listed is stalling all the time for me.

Go with no Brits next year. None of them are good enough.

Your not winding anyone up - your making a total tool of yourself.

I dont mind watching Lindback again as he is an entertainer when put on a proper track where you can pass, and Bjarne mixes it with the best and is still a very good rider who has won GPs and made finals on his way to featuring in the top 8. But watching Pepe doesnt get the juices flowing at all and he will no doubt be one of the back markers in 2012. Still feel Anton has a lot more to offer to the sport. His world cup form was good and his recent GP scores are improving. he was head and shoulders above anyone on display at Vetlanda, having watched the meeting.