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Hell hath no fury like a woman (in this case Speedway Star editor) scorned eh Phil

What a fantastic contribution to the topic

The LA Coliseum wasnt a track in a field but had a dreadful crowd by the standards of the day. Likewise Gothenburg was an OK stadium in a country with a speedway tradition but struggled to break 30,000 by 1984. One off finals, had they been around today, would be lucky to fill Scunthorpe let alone the millenium Stadium

The decline in Poland is simple. They are merely recreating all the mistakes the UK made 20 - 30 years ago. The main one being paying riders over the odds, upping admission to cover it, losing fans and upping admission some more to cover that. Speedways boom there was largely due to fall of communism, it was rather like the post war boom here. Now though Poles have so much more to do with their money and speedway is slowly (although gaining momentum) falling out of favour

Yes Phil I am aware of that, the point I was trying to make is that even if SKY dont broadcast the GPs is there any reason they wont be contracted to provide the world feed as in the last few years

A Cowardly Doper is probably the most apt Ian

I dont see the two are linked at all. Isn't it only the last few years SKY have had the contract anyway. Didn't Chrysalis (now all3Media I think) not have the world feed contract prior to that?

Would providing the world feed and broadcast rights not be separate issues? I cant see any reason why SKY wouldnt be contracted to supply the world feed as they always do at Cardiff

So go back a few years when gates were 3 times (or more) than now. Did those people simply develop amnesia over winter and forget what they used to do on a Monday/ Wed/ Thursday etc night FFS What a wally

All total fantasy, the work of someone refusing to accept where speedway is in the sporting public's perception. You, and many others, seem to think it is simply a lack of awareness as to why no one goes anymore! Anyone with a modicum of marketing nouse could fill a stadium once, even if its the free admission route it showcases your product to thousands. Lakeside did id a few years back and had a reputed 5000 gate on the night. Point is how many of those 5000 liked what they saw enough to be willing to pay to come back the following, and subsequent weeks? Well Lakeside are back to racing in front of one man and his dog so it would appear not many. Worse still is that those 4000 will never ever come back now, they are lost to the sport for ever. Quite simply never ever market a flawed product, you get one chance with a potential customer, blow it and they are lost forever

What is it that people are struggling to grasp. The contract to cover the GPs expired at the end of last season, that has been known for months. That being the case, as far as SKY are concerned, consigns speedway to one of many hundred sports and competitions which they dont cover. Thats quite simple, no need for statements reiterating that position weekly. Of course should a deal be concluded and the GPs once again be in SKYs schedule both BSI and SKY will make an announcement to that effect. It really is that simple folks, no need for the daily e mails to SKY or BSI. It simply makes the senders seem to be a bunch of half wits

Speedway is really an individual sport. The team element is entirely contrived, it is just an accumulation of individual scores to give a team total. Team riding, by and large, doesn't exist anymore. In a true team sport one team members performance is dependent on his team mates and that isn't the case with speedway

Has there ever been a more boring poster in the history of the BSF, this guy is a cure for insomnia

And what were you expecting. Perhaps you thought a deal had been agreed and they had just forgot to announce it and your e mail would be a most welcome reminder!!!!!

Nearly 6 hours now since the last posting of an e mail to SKY. Come on surely its about time someone else sent an e mail and furnished us with the reply!!!!!

What on earth are you on about. The SGP contract between SKY and BSI has expired and up to now no new deal has been agreed. That has been known for months and hasn't changed in the slightest, there haven't been any developments good or bad. Do you want a daily update saying nothing has changed. If and when BSI agree a deal with SKY (or any other broadcaster) then it will be made public. Until then you will have to make do with the daily half wit report from the latest wally to post a reply to the latest (although exactly the same as all the others) e mail they have sent to SKY.

Where were the grammar police when I did that !!!!!

Not even upper case for the "O" in Oldace. Tut tut

Sky do want subscribers though, it is why they are so reluctant to lose a customer that they will often give the product away at half price. The more subscribers they have the bigger the potential audience of a particular show is. This is where the real revenue is generated in that the cost of an ad break in a show with a high audience of ABC1 demograph will command an extremely good rate. Unfortunately the figures for speedway have been falling the last few years (I know Phil Rising has his reasons for this) coupled with the fact that speedway tends to be followed by more C2DE demograph then you can see ad rates will fall through the floor. This may be OK if it was very cheap to broadcast and not taking place in peak viewing time but it must be hard to justify both the cost of the broadcast and the 3 hours of peak time it requires. It is a shame because the stop start nature of speedway lends itself perfectly to SKYs requirements in that there is a natural break every 15 mins to cram the ads into, not much good though if no one is buying them. The reality is that the loss of the GP will cost SKY no more than a few hundred subscribers

If expecting to be able to decipher a sentence on first read through puts me on a pedestal or a high horse then fair enough, guilty as charged.

Touch of understatement I would say. There is a world of difference between the odd bit of dodgy punctuation or a spelling error or two, and posts that literally need translating because they are so poorly constructed. It is a sad indictment of society that someone posts in that manner

Jesus Christ!!! Are people really allowed to leave school this stupid.

Not sure of the speedway connection with Leicester there and Wiltshire Road was there before the stadium was demolished anyway, the houses were at the back of the old back straight. I think there are a few houses on the stretch of Parker Drive near the old entrance that are addressed Stadium Rise

My business can't afford what my staff want, neither can any other business in the land. Fortunately most business's pay a rate commensurate with the employees value to the company, rather than what the employee wants. Speedway seems to operate on a tail wagging the dog basis were riders dictate payscales