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Perhaps it was Fred West who caused the decline in the building industry, or Peter Sutcliffe was responsible for the downturn in the haulage game. You have posted this in the past and referred to Carter bringing shame on the sport. Kenny Carter brought shame on himself, not speedway, not his immediate family, just himself. His actions would have had no bearing whatsoever on the sport, in fact ironically being on the front pages probably would have helped.

There is a difference between an obvious slip of the keyboard and someone who is almost illiterate though

Can you actually read or do you have some sort of learning difficulty

Lot of respect in that one Sidney but with all due respect, shut the f-ck up!!!!!

You are a funny guy Sidney, even if not intentionally

What you mean is you are happy to overlook his indiscretions because he is a speedway rider. Read about the case and imagine it was a scroat from the estate rather than a speedway rider and let me know how you would describe him. And to save you keep going on, i have no issue with anyone going off topic. In case it went over your head it was merely in reference to your constant posts on the subject of going off topic Which of the four am i. Can i be mr fantastic?.

What you mean is you are happy to overlook his indiscretions because he is a speedway rider. Read about the case and imagine it was a scroat from the estate rather than a speedway rider and let me know how you would describe him. And to save you keep going on, i have no issue with anyone going off topic. In case it went over your head it was merely in reference to your constant posts on the subject of going off topic

Ah the famous sidney debating skills kick in there then. Cant really argue with that considered response sidney

I suspect peoples issues with Tai were more of watching him seeming to waste a glorious talent. Fortunately the lad got it together and realised that he had to give that talent its best chance of succeeding and worked his bollocks off. No doubt the right people in his corner helped. In the case of Ward he is equally (if not more so) naturally talented but shows no sign of applying himself. He really strikes you as needing a firm hand as a father figure and Middlo pandering to him is doing him no good whatsoever. He was a young lad miles from home and was (is) crying out for some discipline but Middlo seems to want to be his friend rather than mentor/role model/ manager etc

Better check that out with Gustix if it can be allowed on that rather flimsy pretext.

I thought we were discussing Eddie "flash" Barker. Why does every thread have to go off topic, and only the second post in

All very confusing now. To clear it up it was you who I think has sh!t for brains. Are we clear now. And Gustix will be pulling his hair out now with no mention of speedway in Wales in the last few posts

I was around Newport a few times mid eighties and the kid does have attitude, who knows!!!!

Apologies, a case of mistaken identity, though it was the Ray one who dragged it up

"Just dotting the Is and crossing the Ts" "These things take time" "Expect an announcement very soon" Think that covers the three standard responses Oh and by the way you obviously want it all to fail for even asking any questions about the project

Mmm interesting!!!!!!!!!!!

Have we gone off topic here. The title is can he win, not how many people hope he wins. You really should follow your own advice

Do you never learn. If you have something to say about speedway in Wales the say it. How do you go on down the pub? Does your group pick subjects to talk about with the only conversation allowed to be on that subject or does conversation naturally flow from one subject to another. It is exactly the same in a forum/chat room. Stop being a prat and say something of interest (for once)

See what I mean

Oh I don't know about that Sidney. PC certainly did Lee in the only two encounters I can think of at White City (1977 and 1979) To be fair they are comparable. PC applied himself and achieved pretty much what he should have. Bit of bad luck in 1975 and 1977 when he was right at the top of his game, then the shoulder injury in 1980 which effectively finished him but over ten years not a bad effort. Lee on the other hand achieved nothing like he should have done. He should have been the dominant force from 1980 through to the mid/late 80s but for whatever reasons fell apart in the year he was world champion and but for a bit of a renaissance in 1983 was finished in his very early 20s Best Brits in my book are Collins Craven and Lee.

Years ago someone started a thread as to whether there was any speedway in Slough and would it be on SKY. It was simply a p1ss take response to the countless brain dead questions as to whether SKY were showing matches and a particular poster giving the forum his location for a given evening as Slough and wanting to know where he could find some local speedway. It was very funny for a week or so but one or two carried it on ad infinitum well past the point of funny and into merely annoying. Now one of the forums less intelligent posters has made reference to it in a totally unrelated thread meaning if you hadn't seen the original you would (as you did) wonder what the hell he was wittering on about.

It wasn't the smoking pot and getting drunk I was referring to. OK so the verdict was that it was consensual and therefore a not guilty verdict but were his actions that night anything other than vile. And incidentally it is well documented on the internet so there is no need to go into more detail on here

Thanks for the advice but, with all due respect, (zero), I will decide myself what I think of a person based on their known actions. In the case of Ward he is, in my opinion of course, a vile excuse for a human being and I certainly don't need, or want, your endorsement

You dont even know how to debate. Ashby, did you ever see him live, i did and that was in the days when every rider in the league had a 10 plus average.

Seems as though there are two discussions going on here. Firstly as an individual Darcy Ward is a vile piece of scum. He is lower than a snakes belly button and in reality should be doing a 5 stretch right now Secondly as a speedway rider he is probably the most naturally talented around at the moment. Natural talent alone rarely equates to world titles though, it has to bd applied and i think wards immaturity will stand in his way To answer your question sidney, can he win? Yes for sure. Will he win? With his current attitude, highly unlikely