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Poole used Ward fully aware that any points scored would be ineligible if he was guilty. Unless they have total sh!t for brains they knew he was guilty so they should now, as per the rules, pay the price.

The results obtained by Mr Ward in all the Competitions in which he participated subsequent to the positive test, from 17 August 2014 until 27 August 2014, are cancelled, with all resulting consequences, including forfeiture of any points and prizes. The red part seems to be the damming bit, it seems to suggest they expect his scores in all matches during that spell changed and the consequences applied. To be honest though I am not sure of the FIMs jurisdiction over our league structure, the Elite Leage is not an FIM competition and I wouldn't have thought they could impose this. That said though if the SCB had teeth like it used to they would not need forcing, the changes would be applied immediately. Whatever the outcome the whole world knows that Pooles title is now null and void

Like I explained earlier, they were never officially England Why haven't you started a similar thread demanding Belle Vue be re named Gorton

Test matches are not FIM events, they are just arrangements between federations, hence England v Rest of the world or Australasia etc. In the SWC they represent Great Britain, this isn't to be pedantic or argumentative, its just a fact

They don't represent England, any more than they represent Manchester. The represent Great Britain.

The official records show Great Britain every year. England was never the official team name Why, you want the team named after where the riders came from so why not Manchester

The results obtained by Mr Ward in all the Competitions in which he participated subsequent to the positive test, from 17 August 2014 until 27 August 2014, are cancelled, with all resulting consequences, including forfeiture of any points and prizes. It may be old ground but it really does mean that Poole's League title is null and void. They fielded an ineligible rider and it altered the actual league positions. You can't simply upgrade Coventry because the semi final was flawed due to Poole picking Kings Lynn. The only possible outcome is to go back to the original league placings making Kings Lynn champions. All resulting consequences seems to cover it,

Well both really!!!! Calm down old timer, I am already on Sidneys hit list, I don't need any more enemies

Bet that went right over a few heads. Just when you thought it was safe to back in the water eh

You are welcome As to Ian's original point whether it should be Great Britain or Team GB, it is totally insignificant. It is a name, no more no less and the subject doesn't warrant the minute of my time this took to type

Officially it has always been Great Britain. We have always been able to draw riders from any country which is represented by our ACU at the FIM, Up to the late 70s New Zealand fell into this category and as such were eligible for GB. From 1973, even though they were still eligible, we elected to drop the New Zealanders and use British riders only, to distinguish this change they were then known colloquially as England although still officially as Great Britan. By the late 70 New Zealand became affiliated to the FIM in their own right and were now not eligible anyway. Whether you want to refer to them as England, Manchester or Roscoes select is up to you but they are, and always have been Great Britain

I presume you would like the 1984 world pairs champions referred to as Manchester then as thats where the winning team came from. This has been gone over dozens of times. It is great britain because it is the representative team of the acu who represent 2 and 3 wheel motorsport in great britain at the fim, it is irrelevent that the team at the moment all hail from england

sow doo i,

Wasn't it Middlo that first told us there were mitigating circumstances for Darcy attempting to ride drunk. Middlo obviously knew what these circumstances were (that a 23 year old bloke found out his parents were splitting up, and this 2 weeks before the offence) and in his world they justify what Darcy was about to do had he not been caught. Perhaps the "don't condone his actions" line is the reason we are were we are today. Middlo has constantly condoned Ward's behaviour. With each indiscretion he must have felt more and more untouchable, no one was willing to bollock him and bring him down a peg or two. Like I said before, a young guy with no brains, plenty of money with people fawning over him, far away from home with no one to guide him was always likely to be a problem

I saw Ashby on many many occasions Sid. At hyde Road when he represented Swindon and Exeter and also lots of blrcs. My overriding memory of Crash was the 1975 british final were he narrowly lost a run off for the last place to Ray Wilson. Wilson had fell first time out but ammassed 11 from his other 4 rides, the same as Ashby. Overall i would probably say he was maybe in the top dozen brits of both 60s snd 70s

Where else

BSI make approx 1.5 million profit out of the SGP per year. If they split it 4 ways between the Danes Swedes Poles and ourselves the thats £375,000 per country. Split 20 ways that is less than 20K per track. The sky deal was putting roughly double that into the Elite League, how much has that helped

That story never worked for me either when I have rolled home p!ssed as a fart. "But love I have only had 1 drink"

Well thats a different thing. Of course speedway should be benefiting financially from the SGP. The 3 main speedway countries could, and should, have been running the series themselves. You said BSI should be helping rider development, I asked how you think they could do this

Why do Poland, Sweden Denmark etc seem to manage to develop riders of their own ? What is it you would like BSI to actually do. Even if the ploughed every penny they make into the four or five speedway nations it would amount to £15,000 or so per track. What part of British development is wholly dependent on the odd £15,000 and how would it help. The promoters of the 60s and 70s are where you should be directing your anger. They were happy to go home in Rolls Royces with suitcases full of cash without putting a single penny onto the infrastructure of the sport that was providing for them.

Of course

I understand averages well enough and I know back in the 70s every rider had an average of 10 plus, I have read it on here somewhere, even Ashby. Did you even see him ride!!!

No, but the 12 good men and women of the jury did and obviously came to the conclusion his side of the story didn't mitigate him, hence a guilty verdict. May not be a hanging offence but a pretty vile crime to say the least. Being involved in speedway isn't some sort of immunity you know Sid, disgusting crimes are the same even if committed by speedway riders. Anyway how are you fixed on Thursday for our fight, not going to bottle it again are you!!!!!

Indeed it was. The race with PC, Simmo and Ivan was a classic.

Very good for you that one Ian