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Spot on Vince, virtually mirrors a post I made on another thread back in March Up to and including the JAP engine a speedway bike revved at possibly half the revs of a modern engine. The JAP, in particular was good at generating straight line speed but it didn't want to go round corners, the lack of revs gave it a tendency to want to drag you out near the fence, especially on the deeper tracks of the day. It had to be laid very low to get round bends The advent of the 4 valvers gave riders massively more rpm (not necessarily mph) and were a totally different beast to ride and in the hands of inexperienced riders could cause more accidents. Those extra revs though make the bike much easier (and therefore safer) to ride. As times have gone on new short stroke motors with super lightweight flywheels mean the bikes have a very limited power band, it will only work right at the top of its revs and it takes very little in the way of dirt on the track to kill the motor and therefore point the rider the wrong way.

I suspect he is merely throwing Sidneys well used argument back at him. Did you ever see Ashby ride Norman

Indeed. You are no mug if you win two world titles but when the finals are on your own track it does give a head start. That is not to tarnish Fred,s wins in any way shape or form.

Yes me, he was in the list I compiled earlier.

No I can't agree with you on that one Sid. In any list of the greats of the sport nearly all the multi world champs would be in. Moore Craven, Fundin, Briggs Mauger, Olsen, Rickardsson Gundersen Nielsen Pedersen Crump and Hancock. It would be hard to overlook the claims of Young and Penhall but as Bruce wasn't around that long then maybe not. Peter Collins, although only one title qualifies for my list. Then you can perm any from the likes of Michanek, Gollob, Jonsson, Ermolenko etc Below that you are probably talking top class but maybe not true greats of the sport. Kelly and Shawn Moran, Phil Crump etc Now in a list of peoples favourite riders you may be right in that Nicki wouldn't figure in a lot of top 20s

Nothing changes

Trevor Geer and Paul Gachet I would say

Very much so. The postponement was nothing to do with the track. It was caused by weak officials allowing the riders to get their own way because they objected to the green light starts. Just simply watch it again, the track was producing some good racing before the call off

Looks like we are in a minority but I agree. It was a pretty good match I thought. Not often a Sky match holds my attention but that one did

Really, they did in Warsaw

I suspect the "special" part of his/her user name refers to his needs. Another one unable to read

Shared events should go wherever they are likely to generate the biggest crowd. The revenue (after expenses) is shared between the clubs anyway.

"Fines" you don't have a lot of choice, invoices dressed up to look like fines never need paying

Lets see Kelvin and Nige explain away the fact that the next great white hope of British speedway who did so well in the world cup for Team GB is wearing a German race jacket!!!!!

You know the script Bryn. Whatever the weather, whatever the state of the track just keep saying "meeting definitely on"

Lots of riders burst on the scene and look certain world champions and fizzle out but Tommy had been improving year on year and, yes, I felt he was a certainty. Ironically Tommy was so safe on track, always 100% in control. He was 23 when he died so could have been competing for world titles up to the late 80s. Of course for Tommy to have won a title one of the actual winners would not have done so

Pretty good shout there Sid, but at the risk of upsetting Norbold, I find it hard to credit pre war rider as true greats. The sport was so much in it's infancy that no matter what the standard some would have been better than others. The skills required had not really been honed at that point and as such I find it difficult to place, say, Tom Farndon against Tommy Jansson. Of course the war (and a fatal accident in Farndons case) intervened so it is impossible to say if those guys could have remained at the top as standards got higher. That is not to say they wouldn't have done, just too much of an unknown for me

Ah but we don't expect it to apply to speedway riders you know. Any involvement with speedway is an immunity from the law.

To be honest though Sidney the whole episode is pure theatre and can only put bums on seats whenever these two meet. It will likely sway a few of the undecideds to go to Cardiff. A cursory slap on the wrist to appease the baying mob and accept the good publicity that has just landed in the sports lap

It isn't in the least bit strange. Ty Proctor failed to meet work permit criteria and so it was revoked and he was given 72 hours to leave the country.

He was in the country illegally and was removed, no criminal record. Why you compare him with Ward is strange, as far as I am aware he isn't in breach of his visa and is entitled to be here.

Or one could assume he was in breach of his work permit

It would be nice if he could. A nice amount of dirt it was providing some good racing before the prima donnas decided they didn't like green light starts. The twelve heats completed made it a decent GP, I suspect if it had gone the distance it could well have been a classic.

But how is the plywood stored, I hope they use a scientific pyramid shape rather than just dump it in a pile

How do you think Eurosport (or SKY or ITV) get the finance to buy live (or delayed live!!) sport, they dont rely on winning the euro millions weekly. They would have sold ad space during Saturdays original event which was over 3 hours and no doubt will have had to massively reduce the cost to those advertisers and cram some of them into a two hour slot. A normal BSI live broadcast allows for at least 7 ad breaks