Gavan

And all this talk about the start time is hilarious Ive been going speedway for 40 years …. started at Hackney … make it a date Friday at 8…. Guess what …. The parade and intros started at 8.. racing about 8.15 Rye House I used to go to was 4 on a Sunday …. Guess what parade at 4 and meeting about 4.15 Start time does not mean tapes up to me … it means the start of the evenings entertainment People moan that speedway doesn’t put on a show well those 15 minutes of parade and intros is about creating an atmosphere. Its all well and good to say scrap that and start but then a lot of people miss the beginning If your cinema ticket says 8pm does the film start at 8pm? Some people get to the cinema about 10 minutes after the advertised time … imagine if they walked in and missed the first 10 minutes of the film! Surely all speedway fans know start time doesn’t mean tapes up

Yes nothing wrong with the track at all…. The race times went up by 4 seconds The riders you mentioned Iversen Doyle and MPT all led their races … much easier in front but still up to 4 seconds slower than previous races … Nicholls sat behind his team mate….. and I’m assuming that you didn’t see Emil miraculously stay on when the track stopped him turning the bike and then he had absolutely no chance of getting by Toft as he couldn’t see just rode the inside ….. Dan Thompson struggled when the rain came and being filled in and Klindt got filled in and was removing tear offs on the back straight of the first lap I don’t think experience had anything to do with it more about who led And did you hear Scott say about the track and how difficult the bikes are to handle now then they were 25 years ago?

Yes… we was even taking about Emil Dan and Doyle sitting by the gate waiting and questioning why they weren’t allowed on The Lynn riders were not there The 2 minutes was always on when some riders from previous race not back to pits Emil and Dan went round the stock car track after a 5-1 in heat 6 as Doyle and Rew came on the track

A few very light spots of rain nothing that would have stopped the meeting as shown by heats 6 and 7 times The problem was after heat 6 it was very hard … I sit on 2nd bend and the 4 of us and many others went under shelter of the food outlets on the second bend When riders fall on a wet muddy track it takes a bit longer for the other riders to get back up to tapes as they clean the bike a bit and themselves…. so playing devils advocate if when Wojdylo fell they ‘got on with it’ we might have seen 1 more heat at best….. and by this point the track was gone so another heat would have been awful viewing Those who are saying they should have got on with it means we may have had 13 heats not 10 But heats 8,9 and 10 wasn’t exactly speedway I wouldn’t have wanted to see heats 11,12 and 13 with riders two wheeling either Hugely frustrating day and wasted money but hard to avoid unless with hindsight you didn’t go

Absolutely 100% spot on Heat 8 Thompson and Jenkins couldn’t see and baulked each other from sliding all over the place … Jenkins holding his hand up to apologise and then pulling up Heat 9 Wojdylo slides into the fence… another delay …. In the re run Klindt filled in on first corner … can’t see and poodles around miles behind…… Nicholls lets himself drop miles back so he could see and not inadvertently hinder Ellis Heat 10 How Emil stayed on was unreal So yes I agree it could have been called off after heat 8 very easily

Not from Suffolk but have friends there and the weather apps and times of rain was changing all day so at 12.30 when I was told Ipswich was dry with light showers I made the decision to go I’m not prepared sacrifice racing I live an hour away …. Twice this season I’ve got to the track and it’s been called off … the Oxford match also didn’t make 15 heats and if you ask me that one was drawn out and I was more frustrated with that meeting than today Frustrated about today absolutely…. Could we have seen more heats ??? Not really unless the falls or tapes didn’t happen Could they have cancelled earlier? No as it wasn’t raining and only LIGHT showers were forecast and if they had of postponed at say 12 people would have been up in arms

Can not agree that they could have got more heats in… the 2 falls and start gate malfunction did lose time so yes maybe another heat or two if they didn’t happen After each race the two minutes were on and riders waiting at the entrance to the track Maybe if they had no grading after heat 4 I think it was, but then every track gets graded at that point Heat 6 Emil does 57.0 and then the heavens opened and Doyle does 60.7 in heat 7……that’s how quickly rain can affect a track They did extensively grade after heat 7 but they had to I don’t feel much more could have been done re the pace of the meeting

Again was you there? There was expected light rain not the amount there was in a short space of time Parade at 2.15 for a 2.30 start the club isn’t allowed to start before 2.30 council rules…. All Ipswich fans know that the first race is 15 minutes after the parade What you are saying is start at 2.15 … let regulars miss the first 4-5 heats ….what then happens if the forecast light rain didn’t stop the meeting? Many disgruntled fans I would suggest Stop living in an idyllic world

Quite clearly you wasn’t at the meeting The meeting didn’t amble on there was 2 falls into the air fence from Wojdylo and also a start gate malfunction in heat 6 It wasn’t raining from the start it started getting harder after heat 6 …. Heats 5 and 6 were the quickest times of the meeting hardly an issue with the track at that point It takes me an hour to get to Foxhall and twice this season I’ve practically got there as they have called it off which was far more frustrating than today The rain got much harder very quickly They never said there was to be an interval …. Only mentioned that they would take one after heat 10 to work on the track If you was there you would have heard Nicholls on the mike explaining how hard ALL riders were finding it AND the reasons …Who wants to see top riders two wheeling around bends So yes I was frustrated today but there was nothing that could have been done so I don’t see why you need to make stuff up

I doubt very much that Doyle, Jack Holder and Woffinden would want to take a risk on a wet track with the first GP this weekend

No Doyle tonight now … impossible for the witches I think

This is definitely a banana skin for us Magic is class Wright goes well at Ipswich Tungate Harris Nicholls and Riss all know Ipswich well For me much hinges on Jenkins getting 4 or 5 and King and Ellis scoring about 13 or 14 between them

Not at all the first line of my post was that I thought we would win by more We had Emil getting 4 and crashing whilst in scoring positions and missing out on heat 15 where Ellis got 0. Add 5 onto Emils score and it would have been what I expected …. And yes speedway is all about its and buts but to me Sheffield riders didn’t leave any points behind on the track where as Ipswich did One thing is for certain that the Holder brothers are usually poor at Foxhall so I’m more worried about other teams at our place namely Leicester who have riders that go well at Foxhall

Thought we may have won this by more but fair play to the Brummies This season we have two second strings that can score 11-15 between them and 2 reserves who can get 8-10 between them Even the lower end of that means the 3 heat leaders need to get 27 between them which will happen most weeks … even with Emil and Danny struggling last night the heat leaders got 23…. I think we will be very tough to beat this season but we will see

Sheffield fans on social media hailing the comeback should look at why they needed to make that comeback and getting a draw at the possibly weakest side isn’t exactly a good result Holder snr has been poor either winning or last and 9 points from 8 rides is a shocking return for a third heat leader. Couple this with the fact the reserves are one of the weakest and Jack isn’t flying yet means it’s been a poor start for Sheffield But well done Birmingham a backs against the wall jobs and a good result

Great first night performance Emil said afterwards his first bike going back to the manufacturer lol… got stuck on the kerb trying to shepherd Ellis home and Bewley blasted round the outside … and as always after the meeting he hung around signed every autograph posed for every picture what a credit he is to British speedway King was awesome tonight and Dan T did so well boy he can gate Jordan after a duck egg in the reserves race did well after and Ellis did very well and a great signing if he maintains that Rew was ok not spectacular and Scott did a good job with 7 from 4…. Think Doyle would have had at least 10 though For Belle Vue Kurtz and Bewley looked awesome early on but faded especially Kurtz Lidsey Cook and Bailey were the let downs for Belle Vue but Mountain rode very well One last point had a good chat with Bewley after the meeting … said he actually loves the Ipswich track but he wasn’t riding great last season but feels he has his mojo back …. Level headed a pleasure to chat to and had time for everyone afterwards … again a credit to British Speedway … something Tai and Lambert could learn from

The possibility now of no Doyle swings this in Belle Vues favour if he ride though r/r should get us maybe 8 from 4

It’s a decent side I don’t think any side can be classed as poor until we see what they go like as a team However my team Ipswich and Belle Vue have replaced 2 riders each from the 1-7 last season Belle Vue replace Wright and Brennan ( who in the league meetings at Foxhall got 15 and 19 between them ) with Cook and Mountain which makes them weaker in my opinion (especially at Foxhall)….. and Ipswich have replaced Riss and Hume with Ellis and Jenkins which in my opinion makes them stronger … so we beat Belle Vue in the play offs last year and this season I would fancy us again I admit obviously each team has strengths at different tracks like Sheffield look strong but the Holders sulk at Foxhall and Tai hasn’t been there for years …. For example Iversen and Musielek will probably outscore the Holder brothers easily at Foxhall Still it’s all about opinions … may the best team win lol

King Riss and Hume our for Ellis Brennan and Wojdylo......................thats pretty strong and possibly always having one strong reserve though the Pole is a worry on our track lol I still cant see Ipswich letting Danny go. Club captain and led us to a trophy and his form improved at the end of the season and very good friends with the management. Personally the team you have listed can be title winners and definitely better than the Sheffield 1-7

That top 3 will ensure no home losses Though when they come to us at Ipswich the Holder brothers usually spit the dummy so I wouldn’t expect them to win at our place but you never know

Cant see Musielek at Ipswich as that would mean no King and i cant see that happening I would love to see Musielek he is a class act on and off the track......i remember the cup final and he was the only Sheffield rider to congratulate the Ipswich fans..........while the others stropped and sulked ....god id hate my team to have a Holder brother or Tai no matter how many points they brought in Emil Doyle King Ellis/Brennan ? Rew D Thompson Who we can get and how much we have to play with i dont know Riss to me looks a gamble.......Never looked comfortable on the bike to me but maybe his average fits and would there be anyone better This means Hume out for either Ellis or Brennan (if that works) and that looks strong to me

Doyle and Emil are definitely back so I’ve heard so to get Tobi will mean a lot of outlay and no King…. Not sure that will happen but for me I would go for it why not Means the side built along the same lines except Tobi for King which is an upgrade Riss is still a worry .. yes a low average but his demeanour on the bike wasn’t good and I’d be concerned on him improving on it Rew should add hopefully 1.5 on his average. Dan Thompson a no brainier as the rising star Hume is a difficult one as he is a fans favourite , gives 110% and is always amenable and friendly after a meeting …. If we do go top heavy with Doyle Musi and Emil is there a better rider on his average? Not sure there is

Trying to think why Poole fans are given a hard time on this forum……. Simply read this thread it tells you all you need to know about them …… What a bunch of absolute (insert word deemed appropriate) Think their club is the best ever biggest ever and nobody wants to leave ever … only if you ride for Poole will you ever improve as a rider Shocking to let Rowe go young British rider done well and see you later …. The Thompson twins have no desire to be Poole riders and I know that for a fact But anyway let’s just let these fans have their thread Lawson going nowhere but Ben Cook is looking likely it’s been mentioned at most places … Im sure Poole will build a half decent side they often do … but to be so pig headed is just weird

No I wouldn’t especially if it means nothing and racing against a select 7 in a match that my team will win easily … I have better things to spend my money on…. I only missed 2 matches at Foxhall this season but if we was racing a very weak team in a match that means nothing I wouldn’t spend £50 of my money no No you fool the reason there is a pile on is because of people like you who dish it out week after week and yet can’t take it back Poole are disliked for their antics over the years and the absolute buffoons of supporters on here who literally have no clue about the sport Ask most fans on here which club has the most pathetic fan base and Poole would win by a mile That said people like foreverblue and rayc are decent enough

Kemp a reserve all season rides at 2 Hume a second string rides as a heat leader Allen got 4 last week at Poole Flint and Edwards struggled at Poole this season Butcher…. Ever ridden there! Yes Shovlar 2 evenly matched teams …. Cretin