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Darts ,Snooker .he done it got the t shirt . Thou I take your points in, the fact is that Hearn took these Sports that were dead and has made them great ...sure these sports were low cost but the fact is they were never doing very well ...I am sure if Hearn had control of speedway thou it be hard he would make it 100 % better ..he has a knack of keeping things simple and giving the public what they want .

The crowds have fallen with the drop in standard ...what I guess what we all agree with is whatever they do expect them to make a total hash of it .

The reason is simple teams will turn up with there full side rather half the side missing ... Eastie and Leics had speedway on sat night but if teams up full of weak guests and rr the fans won't turn up .... Sweden have speedway on a Tuesday and it's not a problem at all ...once you change a race night people soon get used to it ..I remember at Swindon when they lost sat nights and how it would be the end of the world ....but after a couple of seasons people soon got there heads around it and it was soon forgotten .

So what happens if number 8 ave does not take the team under the limit ? hardly simple ...just another rule than muddies the water and is open to cheating .

I thought you set much simpler ? what you have come up with would a complete mess ...a number 8 is a stinker of a idea as well ...nothing more simple than having teams who track the same one to seven each week .

like what ?

Bad signing but at this stage i guess we had little choice .takes us from a good side that was certain to make the play offs to a side that could come 7th . Poole and Belle vue are now miles clear of everyone so cant see this being a season to look forward to .

There is no need to ask ..he stay in England played golf went down the pub and rode in a speedway final ....he had already give us the answer . Just like Matt Ford little point in getting answers to someone you don't believe in anyhow .

Yea why would anyone not trust what Matt Ford said ...sorry what were saying about Naïve .

People put press statements out for a reason ...you don't say ...young Sherlock strikes again

Glad to see back on this subject ...you went missing for a quite a while the moment North signed for Swindon ..I wonder why I forgot you naïve enough get suck in by Matt Ford's press statement .

And ? all it means is the reason North has given to Swindon ...that does it is is gospel or the whole story ....how naïve speedway fans can be sometimes it's unreal ...

I read the statements by Matt Ford saying that North was not coming back to the uk this year ..only for a week later for him to sign for another club ...also read the statements saying why his missed s the semi final last year loads of doubts about that as well ,...just because someone says something in a statement that does not mean that it is gospel or indeed the whole truth .

Sorry how do know all this ?

Of course .....nothing wrong with that .

What people take in from any media outlet is up to them if you choose to think that Doyle has not signed for Swindon then that be your own choice . the fact remains that only naïve take everything in as gospel ..I guess that is where you come in

Sorry what has rosco and Doyle going back to Leicester have to do wth it ?

Could be a million reasons ....he could have just change his mind he may not have the money he may not be that keen on Speedway anymore he may have a girlfriend he wants to stay with the list is endless ....just because someone says something in a press statement does mean that is true a bit like missing a play off semi final really .

All that press statement says it's the reason being put forward by North . So we don't know

We don't that ..all we have heard that is the reason being put forward ....As I said the only fact in the case is that he never felt it bad enough to go back in the first place ...nothing is going to change that .

It's going over old ground but the fact will always that was not serious enough for him to go home or not ride in the final ...that will always be a fact

How do you gage that the pl is in a better place ...is has the same problems not enough people paying to watch the sport ...the same % clubs find themselves trying to stay alive no matter what league they are in ...a complete myth that Pl is in a better place ....speedway is in big trouble at every level it is that simple .

Don't agree ...the thing that has always been true is that crowds have dropped as the standard has dropped and unless something is done in that respect it will carry on and speedway will die a slow death . Thou it's quite clear that the best days are Thursday ,Fridays and weekends to get better crowds it's quite clear at El level that teams as they have in the last few years would have most of there team missing most of the time on these dates so it would just defeat the object of having a fixed race nights . As I said before Fans biggest hate is riders missing matches and having guests and rr so there is little point having El speedway on these dates . Monday or Wednesday are the way to go ...teams can have full 1 -7 's it won't effect the double up riders so pl teams can have more chance of full 1 -7's and it may bring back a few good riders into the bargain ...of course some teams are going to have to ditch there normal race night but after a while they would soon get used to what night speedway is on ...looking it already you can see that the ugly head of self interest will stop this in it's tracks with the likes of John Cook only caring about keeping his own race night .

Join a sinking ship ? not sure you notice the Pl is hardly the place to be ...yet another who thinks that all the problems are at El level ....speedway is a sinking ship at all levels . Saying that if they are going to make it Thursday and Friday then the idea is a complete waste of time .

It seems me that you made up your mind you don't like it and your going make up any reason you can find to do that . You started off by saying it would effect Pl teams. Once it was explain to you that would not be the case you changed to top riders taking money out of the sport etc etc thou clearly that won't be true . To me your just an old fan who does not like any change .I bet if it ever started your be sitting there preying for it to fail and be unhappy if it worked .