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About as a surprise as you coming back to the forum after your dear john note ...everyone knew it was just a cry for help and your never would stick to it .how right they were .

But still post on a forum on a sport you don't waste your time on ?

Not a tai fan but you got to take everything on it's merits ..not sure you can question him when it comes to charity work etc

Everyone who knows me will tell that is not the case ...only two weeks ago I fell out with Rosco over the defeat by wolves ...and was vocal about it on here ..try harder or made up another name

lol your really capable of objectivity ..all you ever do is kiss butt and defend Belle Vue speedway no matter what .not sure when it's going to sink it but people knew there was a problem with the track before Saturday it was hardly a secret and sadly that turn out to be correct .if you can't comprehend that because it does not suit your point of view then so be it . Yea mainly be you and the other user names you been making up over the last few weeks .

Havvy does not need at the stadium and nor does Hans etc ...they were told there were problems ...they were clearly not made up as they were proved correct ...the rumors were also before the so called weather charges as they were mainly on the Friday It was up to Belle Vue to test the track out is was also Belle Vue choice to open the gates to let the fans in ..

Yet again it is you who is not able or willing to understand ..First of all it quite clear that not everyone thought the track was racable as quite clearly the cat was out of the bag they there were problems with the track before Saturday as it was all over the internet ...and who was proved correct ? Two Belle Vue riders doing a few practice laps of the track does not mean the track was raceable ...it quite clear due to all the tickets being sold that Gordon was under massive pressure to run some kind of a meeting ...if Worall and co had said the track was crap I expect he would have still try to carry on .. . The Bottom line is before a massive meeting like that Belle Vue should have had a full practice match or matches to test the track out .so as I said the fault lies with them

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They were apparent ..as i explained most people knew there were problems and they were proved correct ...how hard or difficult is it for you to understand ...you constant defence of Belle Vue when quite clearly they are at fault does you no favours .

I expect so ...after all it only took a few riders (non Belle Vue ) to see the track unfit on the night

How Difficult for you is it to grasp ...it's been said a million times the cat was out of the bag that the track was having problems ....people like Havy on the Friday night etc all knew it was also all over this forum do you reckon they just made all this stuff up ? someone quite clearly told him and others there were problems and they were proved correct Its no good looking at the track and thinking is was ok ...you have a full scale work out rather than two riders a day before going round a few laps ..Letting fans in that night when there little idea if the track was fit or how it might ride under a match format was up to Belle Vue and thus they were at fault .

Yea Belle Vue speedway

Not at all ...just like anything you test it first to make the sure the job has done correctly ...if you opened a restaurant and someone supply you with ovens etc then you would fully test them before opening night rather just hoping things would be ok

You don't need highsight to work out that before you put of a massive first meeting that has a crowd of 6000 b that must test run it before hand ...it's just common sense ...and that has nothing to do with Manchester council .

i expect you put the clocks backwards when they are due to go forward ...if a promoter chooses call a match off due to the track being poor or a bad weather forcast then they will ...hence why Belle Vue got fined for doing so under false reasons v Poole . Gordon choose not to test the track well enough he also choose to let 6000 in when most all was not well ...nearly all the blame is on him .

....maybe you should contact Gordon and Morton and tell them to appeal the fine they got for the Belle Vue v Poole call off ...after all according to you they never decided that the track was unfit .

Good weather a high standard of riders .

Spot on ...it was down to Belle Vue to test the track and make sure it was fit for racing on the sat night ...sadly the test was two riders going round a couple of days before hand ...base on this they allowed 6000 fans in on a track that not fit for a race meeting .

Why should we accept that they acted in good faith ...the bottom line is after the track was handed over they failed to take Due Diligence in testing the track with full practice matches etc before they allowed a 6k crowd in . What they try to do was to fudge up a meeting on a untried and unfit track as they had already had sold all the tickets .

The bottom line if not being British it would taking longer to get in the Gp there is no doubt about that .. Being British and getting that wild card has pushed him miles forward much quicker ...that is fact if you like him or not .

it's amazing last year when you had Garrity last year you never seemed to be worried about unfair .

Scb has only started this topic as he's jealous of Poole

Why would you have to be there ..the track was not fit to race on ...Dave Gordon agreed with that

The facts were simple that riders eetc and people like havy all knew that that there were problems with the track ...and that proved to be correct. these riders etc also would not have known about any defective base so there worries about the track had nothing to do with that ...if you choose to ignore then that is up to you .

I think he's still laughing about Lemon giving Cook the tac sub ride rather than Zagar