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Not really the height of stupidity is thinking that we should run something on a model like the pl that has clearly not worked ..the snobbery in speedway it's quite odd it tends to be from the pl and nl towards the El in some cases it almost hate and wanting it to fail . What is driving speedway to oblivion is the mindless my league is better than your league mind set and fans not understanding that speedway has problems all round in every league.

We got pl speedway at weekends and the crowds are poor ..so quite clearly that not going to help save British speedway ...just anything else in sport etc the bigger the names the better the crowd .

His name not Zagar

Sportsman get over injury in 5 days shock

No fans most of the time ..as had been say we keep what a great product it is but the crowds are dipping below 400 at some tracks ..if don't to el matches how would know if the racing was better ?

Of course it's elite as it has the strongest teams in the uk hence the name ..unless you think there is a stronger league with better teams in the uk of course ...this has been explained a million times . It's always been the most odd thing in Speedway moaning about the name of the El that that quite clearly has logic why it has it's name , but then nothing about the name of the premier what makes no sense.. using your logic what Premier riders in the world ride in the PL ?

The teams in trouble have little to do with the rules or the league etc ...Cov and Swindon are in trouble because there home might be taken from them ..that can't happen to any team in any league ...the lions are just poorly ran and I have no doubt they could do really well with right people running them .

Another poor post on the subject ...yet again with the view that somehow Pl is going well and is some great role model to follow ..as has said a million times teams in the pl find it just as hard to get by ..the crowds are poor and it's all relative to what is paid to riders ..in the last weeks the El and some big crowds and some great racing . Why anyone what's to go by the rules of the league that fans have little interest in watching is madness ....all you are is just another pl fan who wants your league to better than my league and can't wait for the El to go wrong .. Speedway main problem is people coming up with plans to get less people to watch the sport .yours is another . One day people will wake and understand the Pl is not doing well and it's not a good product . but for some reason that can't be explained they buried there heads in the sand and say the only forward is to be like them ..madness

What leics beating Swindon last week you mean ? are you telling me that somehow results in yesteryear were more unprecdictable ? just like always most of the time the home team wins in speedway . Not a fan of some the rules this year but there has been good match after good match this year ..of course that fact or view is not going to be popular as a lot of people for some odd reason just want to be negative all the time and almost hope that every match is poor and the league fails

Sounds like another meeting ..for all the knocking of the el the matches have been very good this year .

That why he spoty last year I guess ...must be lots of strawberry eaters in December

No your memory lets you down Lakeside ran rr for Davidson that night with a doctors note ...what was amazing seeing the info was given out before the weekend is that the same rider rode in Poland on the Sunday ...at no time before the Monday was jd was not a lakeside rider anymore and the rr was used for him ....there was a massive debate about the subject that ran for about 6 or 7 pages on here . Got to be the most funny doctors note of all time ...saying a rider was unfit to ride only for him to ride somewhere else the day before

Surely he has to miss the gp or the Polish matches as Tai given his moral stance about the British Final ....lets wait and see

Why would I get emotional ? I said at the time the meeting was a con and it would not be the last match or the last laps at the abbey ...as I said you need to try harder to get a bite

And Don't forget the JD one before the Lakeside v Swindon one leg semi final play off ...it was given out on the Friday even thou Jd was down to ride in Poland on the sunday what he did before being unfit for the semi final on the Monday ...

As has already been said you why his injury cost Swindon the meeting v the lions on Thursday so using your logic he was pretending to be injured to lose once and then to win once even by your standards that's pretty stupid . As for your last bit as has already been explained to you I am the last person to stick up for Swindon as everyone bar you understands I tend to there worst critic ..I understand why you say it as you think it's going to upset me ...but yet again like most of of your posts I just laugh at it .. #tryanotherangle

If tungate rides elsewhere while missing Swindon matches in the next few weeks then you may have a point ....Zagar rode elsewhere while missing Belle vue matches so him having bags of blood never seem to effect him come gp time ...my point always been the same either your fit to ride or your not ..in Zargar case he choose to decide when he was fit .

I Wonder if the track will get the blame this time ...or the riders will tweet not bad for a pl side ?

Yet again just as many money problems in the pl as there are in the El ..Pl is not better racing as you see a good meeting at any given time in any league ...also your find pl teams who have dropped to the nl from the pl like Stoke ,IOW etc and even Birmingham lost a packet in the Pl . The bottom is there is good racing all leagues and none are better than the other and it's the same when comes to teams losing money and trying to survive ...most clubs problems stem from being run poorly rather than what league there in

Good to see so many + points today from all the meetings today ....dare I say it one of the best days for the El in a long time .

Not really ...it's bit like at start of the season when you put the Poole side up with the Swindon side it's amazing they push them so close . Great Crowd today but you have wonder why this match was not on this date in the first place . Not a bad meeting thou the track was a dustbowl in the end. Swindon so called water truck is a joke .

Mear and Kerr ...National league riders ? guests winning matches who ride for a rival club and poles not allowed to ride by there Polish club ..not seen any of that before 2016

Yea we know that .. the question was where did Freddie come ..it's a simple enough question ?

Spot on sadly as normal people always blame the sport or what league there in when a club does bad ...but most of time is because the club has been run poorly ..this is a classic example . you can't ride at a weekend in the El it's as simple as that. They should have changed there race night and the fans would have soon got used to to it and if you put out a better side the crowds in time will get better

Not sure why it's a surprise ..you got a % of the people who just take in what they told in press statements .....I would say with the Swindon fans it was always a 50 -50 divide