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Explain to me how not riding in league ( Toys out of the pram )not riding in the British final (hissy fit ) and not riding for team gb is helping uk speedway ...people can listen to his opinions just like the next person but that does mean he is right and that we have do what he what he wants or else .doing all the above means people lose respect for him He's got lot growing up to do before people take his views on board ..as taking your ball home all the time only works in the school playground

Has Tai thought he might be wrong ? how can be right that if we don't what he wants then he acts like baby and takes his ball back all the time ...as I said before what did Denmark and Sweden do before this world cup that was so great ? the bottom line is we beat them . Tai is only a speedway rider and should remember that ...but in tai case he wants to pick the team tell them what they should eat how we should the run the league and if we don't the toys come out the pram like a 5 year old ...maybe if was not so childish all the time people might take more notice

Why would Ochiltree be turning in his grave he sold the lions stadium and closed them down ..hardly someone to put forward when it comes to speedway over money .

No you just talk it all the time

I Would expect with what was at the stake and the pressure being put on it's no shock that it passed a so called track inspection . of course when you see the report by the clerk of the course you then wonder how it ever did .the 3rd and 4th turns were never fit for racing day time or night time . If Gordon and Morton had done there due diligence and made sure the track was fit to host a meeting then most of the sorry chapter would not have happened , of course with level the level of debt and crazy business plan they would have come unstuck before long anyhow

As the clerk has already said the track 3 and 4 bends were soft in the afternoon ..its a myth that the problem only came at night ..Gordon and Morton were hoping the riders were just poodle round and get some kind of meeting done so they never had to give any refunds out . where has all the gate money sky and sponsor money gone from last year if no bills were being paid .maybe mr riseing seeing he so freindly with gordon can give some answers

I hear it's ouch and Fred ?

Am I wrong but I thought that Wigg was one of the riders who dropped points for cash ...how does make you a great ambassador ..only in speedway I guess .

Ouch and FF in agree shocker ..it's like there the same person

Lol ...no doubt to be joined by the bloke at work who laughs at speedway rules

Morton had been in the local paper saying so ...being a man of print I am shocked you miss it ....but just for you , http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/other-sport/speedway/belle-vue-aces-chris-morton-12139248

More guff .. It's not irreverent about the meeting going ahead even Gordon understands that was major factor in Belle vues problems this year ..yet again you ignore that there were problems with 3rd and 4th bends from the outset and the clerk course has already there were problems ever before nightfall on the day of the meeting ...to keep saying the track ok and then there was only a problem with the 3rd and 4th bend because of the drop the temp dropping is a lie it had been there from the outset . Chris has nothing to do with Dave Gordons take on the Belle Vue story last year because of most of it is just a lie

So where is Chris Morton input ? where is the bit about why Morton wanted to distance himself from what happened at Belle Vue speedway this year ...why not ask Gordon why Chris would want to say that ? the bottom line all we have is a piece written from one persons point of view a person who has already found guilty of telling lies in speedway and fined for it written by his mate ....it's a shocker that people take it as some kind of gospel .

I Remember Matt k and Humprey a etc ASKING plenty questions on how this project could for pay fot itself and plenty thinking that Morton and Gordon were never the people for the project ...and that has shown to be correct ....if it's not a biased article was not ask Chris Morton why he does not want to be part of What Gordon has been saying etc etc why not ask Dave Gordon that question himself ...why not ask Dave Gordon If he way he was not paying rent or riders where was the money going ? .

Of course it is ..there a millions questions they could have asked Dave Gordon ...but none of them were ever asked ...so yes it there fault if it comes across as vindicating him as that was the whole point in the first place ,it has nothing to do with wanting the truth on trying to be balanced ,

As we suspected the piece by Phil Rising is as normal sticking up for his long time chum Dave Gordon . He been an apologist for him since as long as we have known ..lots of things miss out and no questions asked on key matters as yet again the speedway star scores another own goal due to self interest of the editor . Another sad but expected day for speedway .

it reported that the 3 and 4th bends were poor during the day ...even if was because of the atmospheric conditions yet again it was up to Morton and Gordon to test the track at that time of night have a couple meetings etc before hand so they are at fault ..the bottom line is they knew there massive problems with the 3rd 4th bends but they were so much pressure money wise they took a risk to run the meeting but as soon riders got it they quickly knew the track was not fit to race on .

Talking of rubbish and lies here comes a Fred /Ouch post ...Irony at it's best

He's Had a job upgrade ..he's now selling the big issue .

Very well put .

No one has suggested that ..but that is not be all and end all why Belle Vue went ** up this season ....Gordon was a massive part of why is went wrong including the opening night and was quite rightly was going to be have his licence revoked , Even Morton in the end did not want to be associated with his comments or his side of the story .

Easy to pass judgement when you only hear one side of the story and from one angle ...lets just take in what Dave Gordons says yea he's hardly known for being honest is he ( water hose on track anyone ) ....the fault does not fall squarely at the fault of the contractors at all ... Gordons and Morton never done there due diligence in making sure that track was fit to hold a massive meeting rather that taking a gamble when quite clearly there was problems with the track . The opening meeting was a nightmare but they are as much to blame as anyone for the role they played in it .

I thought Phil the Ace said that cup of coffee was signing ?

Sky money gate money sponsors etc etc ...it must quite cheap to run a speedway team when you don't the pay for any rent or any riders ...as I said by your attitude on here when your piece finally get's in the speedway star it's only likely to be pro your mates ...your just an apologist for them .

Plenty of logic in trying to run some kind of a meeting ..as I said they took gamble that things would have been ok and the riders would give the track a go ..quite clearly that did not work out , Makes .more logic than refunded everyones money what clearly would cripple them All the info you give out is all pro Morton and Gordon why not give up some info if they were not paying rent or any riders where all the money went seeing your not bias in any way ...why do kept avoiding the question ?