orion

Not really .if make a analogy it has make sense and logic .that's the whole point .try again

Would they ? I eat meat and I don't like fillet steak .I also loads of people enjoy would enjoy burgers ever thou they are cheaper ..so what you say is not really true .

?? surely you noticed that the cost cutting has been making the teams a lower standard ..I though everyone knew that ..your plan is do the same again by making the league weaken again ..Yet again unless you been in a cave it's don't work

Yep ..they done for the last 20 years ….nothing likes new ideas to bring fans back .

Don't tell me the houses will be built first ?

One big league would close a few more clubs down quite quickly ..but no matter what they do I am sad to say nothing can save UK speedway anymore from the slow death as one by one clubs close .people want to see the best but sadly we have not got the money or the crowds to do that .The moment they drop the standard again and we lose the last few good riders worth watching the end will be near .of course the die hards who go every week and will be happy to watch a lowest of the low but the fans they need to get back will be lost forever .

Chris Harris well you got him now

Wow was looking earlier and seen poole were miles clear ..was shocked to find out they got beat ..what a choke .

Have ever thought of giving Simon Bates a call ? ..I think he still does our tune

You sure ? all the people I know who go anymore don't want the likes of Tai and co to come back ..they want 7 juniors who wave at the crowd and have a pint in the bar after . We got to cut costs so even less people go and we get yes sponsors press coverage etc ..it's the way forward

its on sky sports ... phil taylor has been placed in sports personally of the year etc ..how do you judge what is a sport ?

I know look at Darts

Another amazing topic .a poster who posts story after Story day after day that are untrue makes up yet another story and people take it as gospel ..wow

Of course that was end Clark's plan all along .The staduim was never going to build where they said . And of course the new plans will never get off the ground because of the noise and where the houses are now built .You can see Osbourne Clark with a Hannibal smith cigar saying I love it when a plan comes together.

Why would be the same .it was not the point i was making .you gave a example of why we should not have strong teams become reading went bust .so I am giving you example back of when not having top riders has hurt another club .. it's not hard to follow .Losing fans that never come back is not sustainable for anyone but the plan is to carry doing that ..amazing .

Losing fans that will never come back is unsustainable where have you been the last 20 years ..for the Reading story read Poole who had a high standard team and were making a profit each year to now where the crowd are 50 % less due to not being able to do the same .

When did I say anything about gp riders as no 1's ? I say the standard getting lower

Not doing to well in doing that is it ?

And what we are doing at the moment is suicide ... the people with heads in the clouds are people thinking that keep making the league weaker will make things better even thou we have been doing the same thing for the last 20 years . 7 riders of crap standard who turn up every week and wave to the crowd and do a wheelie and talk to 70 year old people in the bar after wont save the sport ..what other sport thinks by making the standard worse that crowds will get better ? by somehow speedway fans think this is the way .unreal

Of course the standard answer is to have any 7 riders who ride and turn up every week and somehow the crowds will come back ..what other sport thinks that getting the standard lower will makes things better and will save the sport . There no easy answers but the mind set must be to raise the standard of rider and make teams stronger not weaker ..Each year the same plan is to lower the standard (cut costs ) quite clearly it's not working but the answer to this is to do the same again .

Sadly as you can see on this topic and many others speedway fans think the way forward is get less people to watch it ...it really is an amazing mind set .

Of course it does .its common sense that the better the standard the more fans who have stopped going would go again and the more people that come back the more likely that they will bring new fans with them .. I got no answers how we do it but if the only plan to keep droping the standard and have a mind set that we don't need top riders in the uk then the sport will carry on losing fans intill it's dead..

Of course that is why we don't have them anymore ...but that is not the question ..Someone on here is saying that big names won't bring in bigger crowds ...when you hear comments like that I don't know if I should laugh or cry .

Only speedway fans can think that star names won't makes the crowds bigger .it like saying that more people wont come to see mcg at darts ronnie O'Sullivan at snooker Messi at football etc .its no wonder speedway is in a mess if people have a mind set like that .it's simple fact as the standard has dropped so have the crowds it's not rocket science.