orion

No one in any sport has ever said that the play offs are fair ..the play off have always used to keep the season open for more teams and make them money .also every understands the rules before hand . without play offs and nothing to race for the modern fan will not go and clubs will go bus,t in fact play offs in speedway are more important than any other sport ..I ask again why would you watch a speedway match between a 4th and 5th team who have no chance of winning the league under the rules you want ? you said every match would count so explain what that would count for .

So if went back to old league season every match would count yea ? so if a 5th place team rode the 4th place team and they were 20 points behind the leaders what would that count for ? looking forward to this answer . As has been explained a million times much more reason to watch more matches in a play off season than a normal one

Rugby Union ,Rugby League Premier league darts ,American Football ,20 -20 cricket ,Ice hockey .,Netball .also speedway in Sweden and Poland ..it's very hard to find a team sport that never uses them now

Another lie .you are one who kept on about football .I compared them to other sports that used the same format to decide the winners .I explained to why football never had to used them ..as you know nothing about other sports that is going to be hard for you to take that in . I ask you again what are these postives and idea's you go on about that don't include going back to the past ..what are they ?

So you like the plays offs and Gp's .before you said you never .what changed your mind ?

As I said if you don't understand other sports or not interested in them then don't comment .as I said it's so naïve to say thy only popular because of media hype or people only go so they can get drunk .the clueless comments about football and 20-20 cricket say it all I say plenty of positive of things about about speedway the play offs and gp's are a great advert for the sport ..I find it's ironic that you go on about positive when don't even go anymore .tell me what do find positive what new idea's have you got ? as I said the bottom line is your only remit it's to go on about 20 years ago ..don't tell me no play offs and bring back the one off world final yea ?

It should be given no credit ..it's been ran poorly hence why it has no sponsorship and hardly any television

As I explained many time once the uk become not the first choice of the riders the whole game changed ..so things like second halfs ,Golden Helmet ,solo events etc etc were never going to work again ..just saying bring them back because they worked in the 70's is naïve and stupid ..it's bit like saying put more phone boxes on the street because they used to take a lot of money years ago . You and the likes of Moxey do yourself no favours buy keep crabbing other sports that are doing really well just because you don't like them ..I said before you have a breed of speedway fan aged between 55 to 70 a lot who only turn up on these topics who only aim is to bring back rules when they used to go

Most of the matches are poor as a rule and it's not just the racing it's the whole event that Speedway fails on ..overall speedway is poor in all area's

in fairness I miss the non league match at the start of the season ..there is no such thing as 11 from 5 it's 8.62 as your guessing what he would have scored if had ridden in each heat 15 rather than just the one . I Rather go over a longer period than 3 matches and if you take say his last 6 it's lot worst than 8.62 .

It's easy really .things that worked 30 years ago won't work now .sadly people like you can't get your head around that hence why you want things like war chants etc to come back .so i dont deride the past at all but understand it's now 2018 not 1975 .

Well you say that about any sport .the fact is sponsors want to back it and tv stations want to screen because its good .no one wants to do that with speedway because its not .it's not hard to follow

How do you work that out ? He scored 27 from his last 16 rides over the last two seasons .that is less than 8 also Doyle never rode in all thous meetings .as a rule cook never been all that good round the Abbey.

Well done to Belle vue by far the better team .You have to wonder why they have found it so hard this season as they are a decent team and if they can the make the play offs they have a great chance of winning them .Great to see Bewley ride so well .he started off slow but once he got to grips with the track he flew and was mustard in heat 15 .Swindon were poor and lack any fight for the job in hand .Why do we carry on with Jack Smith ? ok there is not much out there to replace him but he is unlikely to beat another rider so what's the point .

Bet he was cut up about that

Ok cost me 64 quid for four of us to go last week ? Why

Lol ..no speedway needs to stay the same..we don't need any of the fans that 20 _20 get packing the staduim out .got to keep these sort of people out .

Why is cricket a snore fest .because you think so ? 20 -20 is one of the most exciting sports there is and as well as people enjoying a drink there are hugh a.amount fans who are families having a day or night out .one of the worst thing about this topics is clueless idiots trying to make other excuses why other sports are doing well just because they dont like or dont understand them .if you asked any sports fan worth there salt if 20 -20 was a snooze fest they would laugh you out of town .

Always the victims

One of the better to happen to speedway then ..nothing worse for the sport than some saps doing a war cry

Not really. A team that has say a Doyle or a Lambert and you then replaced them with a junior the crowd is going to go down by 150 to 300 and that will cripple clubs .it's same the old story people putting up ideas but with no thinking about the money side .it's the same with take away the play offs and why don't we a play off cup !. Yet again your plan is thinking that the fans don't care who they watch .people have left because the standard of rider has dropped

That is nearly the same as the rules now

Yet again we had years of people saying this but not one person has come up with a better or workable idea ..look at you replace no1 's with juniors etc ..

As I said we had guests years ago when speedway was packed ..no one cared ....nothing ridiculous about comparing a sport that has stupid rules but still has billions of fans and is packed with money ..you never know one day football might host a world cup where is to hot to stage it in the middle of the normal football season ..oh hang on

A lot Football players teams are full of Loans players no one has a problem with that ..Football has a cup called the champions league that has teams without champions in it but is one most watched comp in the world ...anyone can pulled apart a sport with stupid rules they all have them