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The excitement factor was far superior ..the racing was not . The one thing I have always noticed is how people forget about poor racing in the old days .As I said misty eyes

Yea there is a million factors ..for me it's the lack caring about the match / result when I go ..it used to matter so much to so many people ..I think like you and a lot people I think it's a sport in the uk that is dead in the water and can't be saved now . we are losing 3 to 4 clubs a year . If speedway was a animal it would be a endangered species

The standard of riders was the racing was not ...Speedway was much better in the 70's and 80's no doubt about it but it was because of the whole event .No good going on about where you watched speedway the bottom line is no matter what era most of the races are won from the gate ..

You see great racing at Belle Vue now you see great racing at Somerset you see great racing at scunny ….so as said good and bad racing then and now .As I said old fans always fall into same trap ..it was better because the crowds were bigger and it made seem better.

Spot on post

That is not the point he is making ..Thou racing is good it's not made the crowds come in ...it one of biggest myths about crowds and good racing . People need to feel like the match matters ..the problem is to most that feeling has gone .. Another myth is about racing being better in the old days ..it never was, most of the time is was poor just like today . When you have crowds and big names it always felt like the racing was better but really most the time it was gate and go .

Not really ..I can't see any value in any speedway club . Lets be honest nearly every club runs at a loss ...You would have to crazy to buy one .

Russell looking to sell up ..get money for the club and not get the blame for when it closes down . He loves it when a plan comes together .

Correct hence why me and many others never went to the meeting .Of course Terry Russell made a killing out of the meeting

That's a matter of opinion ..a lot of people at the time thought it was ..and in time they were shown to be correct

Woffy is not really one them is he ..this guy is a 3 time World Champion

..I am sure if we had the best Best Basketball or Ice Hockey player in the world then they would have been spoken about ..When Redgrave etc done well how many fans watched rowing during the year ?

You sure about that

I bet you have it on in the background

And look where they are now without him

Does it .we sign him in 2012 and we won the league .

Not been on the forum long then ?

Not really ..Guests are used because no one and that includes people on this this forum have come with a better idea that wont reduce the crowds numbers ..so intill they do guests quite rightly should stay .

it was sign and sealed that only a certain amount houses could be built at the start intill the stadium was built ...Was that kept to ? this is about the 15th time in the last 4 years when we had so called positive news about moving forward and every time it never happens . When it's built then cheer but intill then don't go over board about a company who have never before kept any promises or built any stadiums . I find it amazing there are still people out there who think Osbourne clark and co will build it .

Why is it good news ? they just won't build it ..I remember the last great news that stadium had been built as was ready to be moved down here ..The biggest laugh was that there was someone gloating on the Swindon facebook group saying he told people that the stadium would be built . When will people ever learn ?

Chicken and the egg thou surely ...Easy to run a league with credibility when you hold all the aces just like when we did back in the day .. ive not seen anyone come up with any answers to solve the problems we have here bar keep making the standard lower, a plan not worked for the last 20 years . The moment guests were try to be cut down on people wanted to go back to having more guests within a week ,it would be the same with one big league .

You not join yet then ?

Yea look how many fans getting rid of double points brought back lol .Remember when people said they knew people that had left because of that one reason .another speedway myth gone.

One thing for sure if history repeats itself and there is one big league the fans wont want it after about 3 weeks .Just like fixed race nights .

We gone over this before .last year they brought in a rule of fixed race nights to help stop guests etc ..what did the fans say to that ? well they moaned that they wanted there race nights back ... Swindon etc had the best year in many years for keeping there 1 to 7 intact last year ,but did it help the crowds ? not at all ...Speedway biggest problem is that the standard of rider has dropped, sadly even thou that is quite clear most on here what to lower that Standard even more thinking that 7 crap riders who turn up every week will bring the crowds in