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Yea you with Shovlar as a rule ..and then there is Sidney

You said people who had never ridden a bike should not comment or pass judgement . some of the best tm's of all time has never ridden a speedway bike .Chris Morton were great riders but were clueless tm's . as I said the have you even ridden speedway routine comment is laugh about on here with good reason

You don't have to ride ridden a speedway bike to be a good team manager at Speedway or know better than someone who has .. silly comment .

Your far to sensible for this forum

Great Fishing from Shov .normal suspects in the net

Glug ,Glug Glug

Thou it's painful ...whoosh

Ipswich should win with ease unless Poole pull off a miracle against all the odds

Not really Cook for instance could look to be form In the premiership because he's riding against a lower standard of rider . The moment he rides in Poland he might score 0 because the oppo is better is he then out of form .

Think that maybe a whoosh

Should be a good night for him on Sat

only blow job hes likely to get

Yea but that was before the rain

Poole can win this easy but if ippo ride to there best they could keep this tight

We get the message Steve .. Poole are massive underdogs and when they win it will be against all the odds

Crowds were massive when we had more guests than we do today ...just another made up myth

What is deluded ? what is untrue ...Crowds have drop as the standard has ? clubs closed every year ? the plan is to cut the standard again the same plan as the last 15 years ? The problem with speedway is never thinks about how they will make crowds bigger its always been how many fans will can we hold on to . If Swindon are barely breaking even I would say that doing pretty well seeing most clubs are losing money .

No the bottom line is you can't keep losing fans and not replacing them . cutting the standard has clearly not worked but still it's the same plan the next year .Another 5 clubs will go under by next year and the plan will be the same again .no one talking about world class no 1's thou quite clearly is not a problem for Swindon as the good crowds pay for it .

if Cardiff was not a unique event it will still be all about who was riding .. Agree with your other points

Yet again it not what you said no one even spoke about the money ..you said the standard of the rider makes no difference to the crowds ..so I ask again if NL rides were riding at Cardiff next week would the crowd be the same ..it's not hard its just yes or no

I never said anything the money side that is another debate ..but just to say that the standard of rider does not effect the crowd borders on madness ..only a speedway fan could come up with logic like that

You said that its not about standard of rider that's brings in crowds .. so explain it that is the case when don't they have NL riders at riders at Cardiff rather that the top blokes after all look at the money they would save they could make a packet ? How comes hardly any one showed up the the Junior match they had at Swindon ? after all no one cares who's riding or what standard it is .

So why don't the National league have big crowds then if it's not about the standard of rider ..why don't they have just juniors rather than Tai and co next week at Cardiff ? after all using your logic the crowd would be the same . This is a big problem old people who are happy to watch anything and think that is how the rest of world think ..you can see why speedway has the problems it got , . anyhow I got a great plan lets cut the standard again so the crowds drop it's not worked for the last 20 years so lets try it again

It's get shouted down because putting the standard down is one of the main problems speedway has and why crowds have drop and stadiums are shutting down ..of course when this happens the answer is the lower the standard again . The same old people who reckon 7 juniors on a sat night with no guests is somehow the way forward ..

And what happens if they lose to Poole ..no bumper play off final crowd ...Semi final crowds have never been that great anyhow so if somehow they come top picking Poole is madness