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But people are on about crazy rules and the giving it as one of the reasons they go on anyone ..as I said you can't get a rule that is more crazy rule than tac subs as it gave out false results . The bottom line it's just old fans who moan about anything new and just pine for anything from when they used to go .it has liitle do with being unfair or crazy as your post shows . You got to laugh the same people who moan about the jokers in the world cup tend to be the same people who thought the tac sub was great

Sorry in what way did the old rule work ? your telling me that teams with 3 heat leaders in the old days never had a massive advantage when it came using tac subs ? jesus youcould even used double tac sub in heat 8 ! the bottom line and the main point is that the old sub rule gave out more false results and that what always make it more crazy and unfair .

He been told he has to Ride For Coventry next season .

I Hear he drunk a bottle of Vodka ..not sure what he done with the empty bottle thou .

The double points rules you can only score a max of 6 points and you have 10 points down and even more to used it twice . tell me how many could you score from the old tac rule . You could also had extra rides and also bring in say the World champion for you number 7 in a race . Also if you look at the stats you find that more match results were changed because of the old tac rule . This is why it's the biggest laugh when the old fans moan about crazy rules but then say they liked the old tac rule . I thik it just adds fuel the fire that old fans just like things from there days rather than how fair it is .

You have gone on about people being turned off by crazy rules then you ask for the tac sub the most crazy and most unfair of the lot to be brought back . In Football both team have the same choices in bringing subs on at anytime no matter what the score is but in Speedway only the team that is 6 points or more can, hardly fair is it ? . If you don't like crazy rules on any tac subs then fair enough but you post is pointless if you then ask for the tac sub rule to be brought back . I hardly ever agree with White Knight on most things but at least he's made it quite clear he wants no form of tac subs or jokers double points etc .

Spot on post big crowds make any sporting event feel better than it is .. When you go to speedway these days even Wolves that used to be quite nasty is dead . The memory of great tracks and passing in every race in the old days is a bit of a myth .

That makes of two of us

Speedway used to be packed when you had the stupid and unfair tac sub rule ...So to say that things like double points turns people off don't hold much water

If that was true then I would say then one race night say Monday would easier than it is now where teams ride there normal race nights then some Mondays . Swindon asking to ride every Monday is the same as asking to ride every Thursday .All teams have being able ride home matches on Mondays before .

Not really with or without sky there will always be a top league in the uk .. People forget the sky deal is nothing like it used to be . And even without it the bigger clubs will always have the better riders

So was I and it was a poor meeting ...not sure what it has to do tonight nights match being poor thou ? unless you reckon that was decent tonight of course ?

Pretty decent meeting ? bar the score there was about 1 pass ? this IS what I was on about how people big up PL speedway

Nothing wrong with being able to Balance the books ...the trouble is as I keep saying by lowering the standard as we have for the 20 years has not balanced the books has it ?

Been tried before it never worked and can't work . You don't just balance the books by cutting costs .

To make the meeting close of course for sky complete joke .

As pointed out just many pl teams are not very stable and not paying the bills ..not sure why you keep forgetting about this .

You give us the same about the pl ? about revenue and crowds going up

Depends I dislike Horton like many but as least he saved the club this year ..being liked and saving or making money are two different things .

So are you saying that the PL is moving forward ? in what way ?

That's right when had a better standard we had bigger crowds and broke even and better

Adams never earned shirt buttons did he and when rode near the end the sport was still in a bad way ? tell me has Swindon Speedway been in a better state with or without him ? Ask Matt Ford if he feels he can justify keeping Darcy Ward or Holder and he will tell you yes due to the extra crowds they can bring in . You don't balance the books by just cutting the top earners out as some will pay for themselves .

Yet again it depends who is running the club no offence to Frost and Mahoney but I thought they done a poor job at Boro and that go's back to my point about Phillips and busting Brum at any level . You can't go league or league on losses without factoring in who is running the club

When Zagar rode for Swindon fans from Reading some that post on here would go just to watch him ride . Also when him and Leigh Adams were riding the crowds were decent and we were doing ok the moment they left and replaced them with Scot Nicholls ect Swindon have lost money season after season . Not sure who told you about the Boro crowds but reading the boro topics and the Mick Hortons statements the crowds have been shocking . Not sure why thou as you say the racing is great and that is what all people care about so we have been told .