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Why do keep saying Good night and coming back ....it is some kind of Encore ?

What is ..The The ...I thought they were a pop group ...reckon you should check your own posts first when going down that route .

You have ridden a speedway bike ! wow they put you in charge of making the rules straight away Why would I need to come with idea's ? I understand at this present time there is no better idea than using guests . you on the other hand talk about squads without a clue on how they would work or how they would be paid for or how they would be used without effecting the size of the crowds I

it was ok last year because the track was ok thou I understand not everyone thought the same ..tonight no one thought the track was ok before heat 10 .

Have to agree ...I remember the Swindon meeting and to me the track was ok to carry on thou Swindon and our fans toys come out the pram ...it was nothing like tonight at all .

Your one of the most negative posters about modern speedway hence why we have topics like this in the first place ...do you even go to speedway ? When you put any idea or rule forward you look at the pro's and cons of it rather than saying it sounds great .

I can ..because before you know it teams would start pulling fast ones if it suited them and if they could work it to there advantage ..sadly another problem with rules in speedway is that teams will try to bend them .

I never did ..you said that number 8's should come in and guest ..you never anything about it not being for number one's .

Yet another thing that has ben answered a million times ...you can't replace number 1's with number 8's as it effects the crowds to much ...time and time again people come up with dumb idea's with zero thought to the money side of the sport ...as I said when someone comes up with a squad system that covers all angles let me know

The post I was replying to someone who said that any meeting with a guest is pointless not 2.3 or 4 any guest ..as I have pointed out there has always been guests and even in the good old day there would be at least one ....as I said many times before I don't like guests but intill the people who moan about them all the time like you come with a idea that works is fair and won't effect the crowd numbers they are here to stay .

So there were guests then ?

Not really in nearly match even in the old days there was likely to be a guest it's the nature of the sport ...you said that any match with a guest had no meaning ...in a sport that has always had them and and when no one has come up with a better idea on how to replace missing or injured riders your comment is way over the top .

Not really it's just another example of someone putting down speedway today from a rule that was in force when they went .

?? Speedway has nearly always had guests ...so seeing that is your take why did ever watch speedway in the first place .

Already been answered the fans do not wish to watch matches that have no meaning ...just another example of fans having little idea of the money side of the sport .

Yea that's why it was got rid at El level of because of the lack of crowds just like the craven shield was .

You don't have to be mystic to understand fans have left the sport for many reasons ...but if is was because of double points when they went when the old tac rule was in place they are indeed lying to themselves or just moaning for moaning sake . In your case if you never liked unfair or stupid rules you should never have gone at all .

No I am correct as I said they had just as many stupid rules in the old days when the crowds were massive ..so people said they stopped going were lying to themselves ...as someone has pointed out if don't like double points why are you watching it on the tv ? after all it's the same rule if you are watching it live on if it's on sky .

And that is the point as has been explained those rules were just as stupid in fact in my eyes more ...so it's quite clear is has no bearing on the state of the crowds .

But when a team was only 6 points down in the old days and a double tac come out it was great no doubt great ..a world champion could replace a reserve etc . the old rule was just as mickey mouse .

No it won't ..yet again another thing that has to be explain time and time again without the league title at stakes the play offs would mean nothing to the riders mangerment and most important the fans who would not turn up meaning big losses to the clubs .

Fans all over the world in loads of sports love play offs ...yet another myth that somehow it's only be bad in speedway ...yet again when comes to double points as I said before those same fans who say they don't go anymore were quite happy to go when you could have unlimited tac subs etc . Speedway has many problems but most of reasons tend to be stupid ones or old people wanting the rules to be the same when they used to go even thou those rules were just as daft .

Like the night before the two Gp's you mean ?

Are they ? of course it's El racing as is the strongest league in the uk that's why it has the name no other reason ...It's amazing how many times it has to be explained to people .

Who said Cook is forward thinking ...look at some of the sutpid things he put forward in the past it's no wonder people vote against him . As I said he just gone along with Poole over the years and sided with them time and time again while it has ripped speedway apart ,,,if he wants meaningful change maybe he should have stood up and been counted why Poole were calling off that home match against them a season or so ago ...as they say Talk is cheap .