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Yet again you miss the point ....most of time like you when you look deeper you quickly find out that was not the reason at all ...as many have said you are a prime example of that .

That can't be right ? because the crowds walk away because of the rules so we get told ...surely if you bring them back it would paid for itself using your logic .

The convo that had nothing to do with you was about the ts and tr and why a person left the sport ...as I said if that was the reason why then is nothing you can do ....as I ask you before if thou rules were good and so superior why were they got got rid off and why don't bring they back them .

Why do think they stopped thou rules ? why do you think they don't bring them back ? Maybe shops should bring back VCR'S as they used to be popular . If a old fan does not go back because of the double points rule but went when the tac sub rule was about then there not worth worrying about as there view can be discounted

Lol it only took two posts another pound in the jar .

Odd that he hates it so much that he keeps posting on it

if only we had a pound for every time you come out with the child like this is my last post on the matter only to start posting again a couple of reply's later we expect the same here ...i put that in the same bracket as i am taking my ball home or i am not going to speedway anymore . The Bottom line is your just another old fan who hates anything modern about the sport ..plays offs, sky ,double points gp's it just so predictable ..why the way forward is the Golden Helmet ,Second Halfs one off World off Finals etc etc hence why no one who runs the sport takes any notice .

Not really it just typifies another old fan who just wants the rules to be the same when he went ...the tac sub is just as Mickey mouse as the Double point rule but because the speedway was good no one cared ...to be fair I don't blame the people who run the sports attitude to people who only want to go back in time and moan anything new .

Can't blame them for calling it off given the forcast and it would have had a big effect on the crowd ..as it happens it's looks like it could have been run .

But cutting costs has been putting money down the tubes that is the whole point ..each year cut costs weaken teams so less and less crowds come ...in the end your not cutting costs at all . No good doing the same things we have been doing for the last 20 years

Fair play to kks ...just has to change his name and everyone takes the bait ...Fishing at it's best .

Yet again untrue as you went when there was the Tac sub ...so as I said before you were lying to yourself

Swindon had to win tonight to have any chance of making the play offs so it is a great win in that Respect ..Bar losing to Swindon wolves have just beaten Poole 2nd and Kings Lynn 3rd at home in recent Weeks ...the bookmakers could hardly split the sides tonight in the betting ...so yet again for Swindon is it's great and vital win ..you also said Swindon win tonight was something do with it not being a level playing field ...what did that mean ?

Spot on ...the moment some one never went with what they said they storm off in a huff . People use terms like that because it was true

No doubt about it Steve ..but what other team including Wolves would have not done the same ?

Why is it not level playing field last time I looked all teams build to the same average ...Lakeside has been strengthened by North tonight as a guest ..what do you want teams to do replace injured riders with worst guests .

No way Sherlock .

Would it ? Sweden have rr all the time

Indeed Ward has said himself that Lakeside would have took him so lakeside were seriously in the frame and were willing to spend the money . All teams can make changes if Swindon make the better one's then bully for them .

Can't agree on most of that ..as I said clubs with no gp starts and low budget teams are in big trouble . if you get a big enough crowd you can pay top riders and make it work. You don't to have to have 3 gp riders in fact seeing there is only 8 teams and only 15 gp riders then it can't happen anyhow . Poole have one of the highest wage bills but are one of the only clubs who see a profit and I know Terry Russell have been very happy with the figures at Swindon even thou they now have two gp riders and the extra fans Ward is bringing in he is almost paying for himself as well as bringing in fans when he rides away . So just to write it off as we can't pay top riders is untrue . Year in year out we bring in the same rules that make teams weaker and we lose more fans and then people come up with a great idea . lets cut costs and lower the standard again , in all the mad idea's I see on here running pl and el matches not on the same night is one of the better one's and might help bringing back some better riders and well as stopping riders in each league missing so many matches .

We have been cutting costs and teams strengths for last 20 years ..it's not worked . PL teams are in massive trouble due to poor crowds and have no gp riders . in what other sport or anything would you be trying get rid of the people who are likely to bring the crowds in ? We need find a way to bring better riders back not turn them away so the standard go's up in all leagues

I don't used Poole as the nor as a rule ..due to great support they get hence they can still run a solo event and make it pay

It's quite simple the cost and the full diary the top riders have

The knock out cup was stopped as clubs losing money running the meetings due to lack of fans ..formats like that are dead at EL level . The sport has not made progress no one has said that it had ...that does not mean that we should bring idea's that have no chance of working these days ..your just another old speedway fan who only wants things to be like when you went . Do you ever stop and think why Golden Helmets ,2nd Halfs etc were stopped in the first place ?

Are you going to paid the money all these meetings cost clubs ?...surely you understand that fans don't go to shield matches or knock cup matches anymore hence why were scrapped in the first place