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Surely your mate at work laugh at that thou ?

Surely the PL and NL only brought the play offs back because of sky

.No doubt if the play offs got taken way he would say ...Dad I really want to go to speedway . why son ? there a 3 v 4 place match and none of them can win anything or have anything to race for so I really want to go . Yet again no side can bring up any financial evidence because we will never be able to have both formats run at the same time in the same era so there no point bringing that up . What can be used is common sense and logic and that is what people who liked the play offs have put forward ...when we ask you why crowds would be bigger without play offs you can find no answer so until you do yours points have zero value .

As i was saying when the debate is loss .

Standard no reply and then the child like insults when you have loss the debate ...same old Sidney nothing changes .(awaits more insults that we have all heard before in his next post )

?? what are you about ... you keep saying the play offs make up for losses during the season as the crowds are poor so as I asked you to explain why those same matches would be bigger without the play offs ? also if clubs do makes losses during the season why by not having play offs how would they help them make up these losses you keep going on about ? The bottom line is you can't answer these questions and intill you can your points have no value .

What ? you keep saying the same thing ...explain if we never had play offs how the crowds would be bigger at thou same matches ? If clubs have losses during the season how by not having the play offs how is that going to help them ? using your logic they will lose even more money .

About the 5th press statement saying the stadium has be delayed ....now we just got to wait for the next one mid way into the season telling us about the next delay ....Glad we got speedway at the abbey next season but wish we would cut the bull ...sadly the whole farewell meeting was sold on a lie/false promise . .

Standard ...you got out telling lies again .

So you used a quote from me in your post ..then you say you were addressing bw

You only have a bee in his bonnet when it someone does not share the same views as you ...otherwise it's ok

So where is the link when I said only oap's go to speedway ?

When did I say that is that another lie like when you said that I said only oap's go to speedway ? we are waiting for the post when I said that ...we have given are views and logic why crowds would be lower without the plays offs ...sadly when ask why they would be bigger without them you can't up with up with answer and result to your child like name calling to divert from yet again being crushed in a debate .

It's you who does not get it ....Nothing is going to make fans flood back to speedway but that does not mean that the play offs are at fault or without them they would flood back ...as you have been asked many times why would they flood back just because we never had them ? Yet again as has been explain just like any sport or in life if you do well you get the rewards ... in football do Manchester ute give stoke a % of there champions league money ? ....Also the play offs help most of the clubs during even they don't make the top 4 as it keeps the season alive and keeps the crowds bigger .

So again no plan or answer on how the crowds would get better without the plays offs ...how on earth can Speedway follow the fa model unless sky gives massive amounts of money has a champions league and can have Promotion and relegation

What about Steve ?

No I am sure you got more than that Steve .sorry Colin

Anyone got that black kettle and pot again lol in his last post he ask why people have be so rude ....we are surely only moments away from the standard insults and name calling .

Yet again how do you link that to the play offs to that ? yet us know and then explain how your new system would make crowds bigger and bring more money into the sport . Yet again no answer

Like what ? it's all well and good of getting rid of something but if you do so you must come up with something that is better ....so explain what it is and how it would work . The question remains the same by removing the play offs how would the crowds get better ? so far not one answer

How would having no play offs make Speedway Great again and bring in loads of money .? As speedway could just follow the fa premier league and somehow everything would be great ....Do you think sky are going to give speedway a load of money just because it has no play offs .

What ? sorry i can't understand any of that ...can you slow down a bit so it makes some kind of sense ...where did you say that google translate was ?

I thought you said he was using Football a moment ago ...what surely is a more successful sport ...maybe you forgot again ?

You brought in football ..yet another short term memory loss no doubt . the bottom line that you can't come up with any reason why crowds would be bigger without the plays offs . in fact you already admitted that is important and crowds are bigger when matches mean something just like we have been saying .

So you agree are more likely to go to matches if there something riding on the outcome ? that is what the play offs does ..glad you agree . You have compare them twice already ... short term memory loss ?