dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

madness - unless we have Lambert signed up!

How about Worrall Wells Tungate Heeps Jorgensen Worrall Bates

or a significant overhaul.

Im sure we wont go with a team that puts Leigh at No1.

Im not sure whether to give you a standing ovation or pray for your soul!! lol Cheers mate!!

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Are you saying Cook used the same bike all last season? Just two new frames and three new engines but always the same bike! lol

you obviously saw the rider from my last line then!!

Not sure - possibly due to him having no league experience anywhere. Personally however I would argue than no non Brit should come in on less than 6 and their average should not fall below the initial figure at anytime. But thats a separate issue.

punishment for their actions last year? That way Russia are eliminated/expelled but without having to make it an official sanction.

the last alteration was more political than statistical though. If nothing else it would be interesting to know what last years true ratio was. (for those of us that are calculator nerds anyway!!)

I was saying Manzares would be a risk for an EL side. Id say he is well worth a look at PL level.

A figure of 4.99 always seems to be quoted whenever his name crops up. If his head and equipment are right he could add 2 points to that IMO. If not he could fail to even match it.

Rule Britannia eh - not!!

Perhaps this something the British authorities should remember when assessing riders coming in the other way.

Masters has been labelled on other threads at 7.43 so unfortunately that top 5 wont fit even with two 3 pointers. As promising as Manzares looks a 5 point EL would surely be too much of a risk in the new set up.

I see from the international thread that Gino Manzares won the meeting in Perth beating Rohan and Doyle amongst others. .If we did go with a new overseas rider he would have to be top of the list.

Hopefully Lakeside will give Adam the same sort of assistance that they undoubtably will be to Bech. I certainly would like to see him back at Foxhall. There is a spark of something extra in Adam that not everyone has . Where that exists in a youngster British Speedway must nuture that if it is to have any chance of regaining a position higher up the world pecking order.

It must be easy to reassess the conversion rate. There were plenty of d/u last year so it would be a good sample size. Total up all the scores in both leagues and find an average average and see what the real ratio is. The biggest problem is having the correct info.

The way I see it is so long as he maintains a PL average any rider can continue evrn if it was the full 12. If he had a year out then if would be reassessed against the EL average and anything above 7.2 would prevent re entry to the PL under the current conversion rate. Technically it could be possible to average less in the PL than the EL.

On a more positive note I heard yesterrday that Leigh had a check up on his shoulder and although there is still some tendon damage at least there is no need to operate. Intensive physio require until tge New Year and he hopes to be back in a Witches racesuit in 2014.

So it looks like Somerset home and away once a month this year for the Witches!!

Given that the points limit effectively fell by 10% just add 10% to any 2013 average for a redeclared rider.

thanks to the abbott via the Newcastle thread - issue 38 of the averages S Worrall (in Recar) - 3.00 I say tell them to take their league place and put it where the sun dont shine!!

thanks for that - I missed that issue!!