dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

I agree in the Oxford orbit that it was not the message projected but in the official national meetings it was allegedly presented very differently

He could need to be a 3rd heat leader/senior second string if the 'one big league' became the option!

Harris has apparently signed up for Pila in Poland and also somewhere in Sweden

The Oxford decision was I believe unexpected with them indicating in those talks in all the months previously that they intended to carry on on the Premiership right up until they made the announcement that they wouldn't.... The Championship regs and limits were probably preliminary agreed on that basis hence the full steam ahead with team building despite no AGM If so that leaves much less time to look at the alternatives

It is one small potential piece of light at the end of the tunnel in terms of rider availability I would suspect however that Josh was banking on 2 UK incomes and his demands if there is only 1 (and that 1 offering only half as much as the expected 2nd) may be different in future - particularly if rider availability is scarce.....

Taking a place in the UK is really Hobsons choice - in 2026 renamed Pickerings choice....

You'd have to ask them

Just the last 50 years or so The world is very different and quite simply what was the norm in the 70s and 80s no longer holds any relevance Let's go back to one bike on a rack on the back of a Cortina with a liberal winding of gaffer tape and all will be well eh GB had the major advantage of pretty much controlling the sport worldwide but by default rather than proficiency It's precisely because we haven't moved on sufficiently that we are in this mess Poor facilities that in the main are not even owned by those in the sport

Especially when 1 is Kings Lynn eh

With the greatest of respect but if the success level being aimed for is this then it is no longer a sport that should expect paying spectators At this stage it is a bit if fun with your mates and no more

If/when the Premiership goes that won't be what you get though If its one big league it will be watered down significantly - its won't just be "lets set it as 1 over 8 to share out the No1s" All the hear leaders will be spread 2 everywhere instead of 3 along with 1 second string from each pair and all replaced by NDL standard The only way to keep it as it is would be to close 4-5 clubs If the costs are cut as many are suggesting you will lose some of the existing making it worse Of course some will also carry on and accept the decrease I wonder then if those healthy attendances will continue.....

Thanks for you outlook Yes it is assuming full time - because they are - Riding 3-4 times a week from Plymouth to Glasgow I'd counter is more than a standard full time commitment Re NDL/NDT - that's exactly what will be left so you will remain satisfied and I'm pleased for you The sport will cease to be as such and instead be a hobby/pass time

True the table toppers would end up owing the other 2

Would need to split the semi receipts 3 ways?

Perhaps the one poster likely to have the most insight as to how close I am in my calculated 'estimates' is The Dean Machine....

But still no input beyond pedantry...

All in WWE Royal Rumnle style with 5 rider heats

Did you read my post? Show me im wrong! If they are not facts put me right - at least make some effort Typical choice to just shout "You're wrong" with no input back as to why and what is right/wrong

Educated estimates - as I said show me I'm wrong - what do you think the figures are ? If you don't thinknits close to factual then put me right.... Iain I factored in 10 extra meetings already to mitigate some of the reduction

I reckon Donkey could still kick ass against the lower end Championship and NDL

There will be a similar disparity once the new normal settles in Instead of Doyle v Hagon you will just have Wright v NDL random newbie

Easy to select and plug in any rider you wish and check the reality

Check the 2025 records PREM 2H 2A plus KOCup - 24 plus 4to6 CHAMP 1H 1A plus KoCup and BSN Series 16+4+4to6 Correct by no more than a couple for either Guest appearances not taken into account

I'm alright Jack - our model is working.... It's a Premiership problem.... Why should we help sort it out.... Etc etc Well look at the facts of the funding and decide for yourself who will be left riding in the Championship at the same rates with no Premiership Take you typical double upper Championship heat leader riding as second string in the Premiership Approx 30 meetings in each league , 130-140 rides in each scoring approx 250 points in Premiership and 300 points in Championship. Averages approx 6.50/8.50 For the sake of ease of calculation pay per point is £200 in Premiership and £100 in Championship (someone else can qualify how accurate that may be) Income from Premiership £50,000 Income from Championship £30,000 Estimate of cost £20,000 initial plus season running costs £10,000 - total £30,000 Rider net profit £50,000 No Premiership - £50,000 down. Offset by reduced costs say £10,000 Generous allowance for extra 10 Championship meetings in bigger league £10,000 Rider net profit £20,000 - less than equivalent for minimum wage job So there is already a significant question mark over the number of riders being sufficient to make a feasible league How many seeing the above simply say no thanks? It wouldn't need many to make that choice to render the whole set up unworkable As the saying goes - Show me I'm wrong!

It can and will if it suits the right number of those left......