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Did not know that happened at Oxford but I get your point.

Swindon used to have a junior side which ran in the second half which was good. When they had a junior meeting only the cost of running the meeting was not covered by the numbers attending. To run an NL team If grants are available this will help but you would have to look at the admission charge or many local fans would probably only go to the EL meeting if both teams raced in the same week. It would be good to have a Wiltshire Sparrow,s team

Will they then be able to get rid of the FIM control and other controlling bodies who seem just to take money out of the sport and cause problems.

Did they forget to build the straights, the side cars is like dodgems.

Have no idea of the pay rates in the NL, but £120 minimum a meeting with £40 per point looks to be low. How much does a tyre cost?, plus what is the cost of fuel, oil etc, that is before you look at the cost of a blown engine.

Tweet sent out by SpeedwayGP this morning, a bit late but better than FA put out by the BSPA. The bspa have not got a clue how to publicize the sport, unless they were not told of this opportunity.

After a few pints of either does it matter, , hic

Sounds vewy whisky

There was a group of Poles that used to come to Swindon when we had a Polish rider but when he went so did they.

pandorum I posted in the elite league section about positions 2 and 4 probably having to be for the riders with the lowest averages, which as you say does restrain team order.

That statement does not say that and others are indicating they have two rides against the opposition reserves, then 2 against the opposition second strings, which would give them 4 rides, the same number of races as reserves have now in a 15 heat meeting. Unless they change the number of heats in a meeting each rider has 4 rides and 2 have 5.

You get then to run the first lap, those at the back hearing a bike on lap two coming round would soon get fit, or needing a change of underwear.

I would imagine the majority of NL riders have jobs as do their mechanics/parents. Those riders who are drafted into the EL reserve positions will then have to ride another 36 meetings in a season in addition to their NL meetings and for some of them PL meetings as well. The money they will need to be paid will have to replace their income, pay for the mechanic and provide for better or extra equipment. This should be cheaper than flying in foreign riders and it is good that young Brits are given this opportunity but will 20+ riders be able to commit to this number of meetings. If it is the case that certain PL riders will be included this would ease the burden on the NL

Any sensible organisation would have ironed out most of these possible problems before announcing them.

I think you may find it is two races between the reserves and two with a second string rider against the same from the opposition. That would give the reserves 4 rides as now.

Very good point Vince, that would help British PL riders and good NL riders who are limited in numbers. Also it gets round any EU rules that most other countries ignore anyway.

The team could be interesting when PL and NL meetings clash with the EL meeting. With d/u from the PL and two reserves from the NL, add to that one or both NL riders being injured or a 1 - 5 rider not available or injured during the meeting. Who will take the rides if rr is one of your lowest 2 averaged riders More interesting is who will be the first NL rider to beat an opposition Number 1.

The report in one local newspaper gives the impression that possibly NL riders from this or last year may be eligible for this EL reserve position. Will need to wait for more details from BSPA or list of eligible riders.

If the NL riders ride in the EL they are going to need a lot more money as possibly riding up to 4 times a week stops them from having jobs outside of speedway which helps them pay for their equipment, mechanics etc. They will need more than one bike with all this racing. If they also ride in the PL the costs get higher. It may mean more EL clubs set up NL teams if for example a Swindon NL rider can ride for Swindon in the EL, which would be good rather than something like a Kent Kings rider who d/u with Workington is allocated to ride for BV. Are there enough riders to ride at more NL clubs, and if more are set up it means more meetings and expense for the riders.

Most fans agree that the youngsters need to be brought on but NL riders in an EL meeting is a joke unless they only race each other, then what is the point. Is this release one of KKS's.

Is this because Rosco nicked and ate all the chocolate digestives or the Scottish clubs want to use tartan paint on the inside line and not yellow.

It would make sense to have internationals with Team GB against others, where the riders get more experience at that level, but with all the GPs and now the European Championships etc where is the time to have these meetings.

We shall see.

For all the doubters out there there is an update in todays Swindon Advertiser, entry in the most read column which confirms the extra parking at the new stadium including parking on the centre green. www.swindonadvertiser,co,uk/news/10790189.Good_progress_being_made_on_stadium_plan/

This is down to the shortsightedness and greed of the EL promoters(BSPA) who should have looked to the future and put some of the SKY money into training facilities and I would have also included an amount to all PL and NL clubs.