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I am sure you are not alone.

It just read that someone had been pulling your leg, having you on. Claiming that the Danes could somehow manage to squeeze them all into the arena! I thought, surely he did not believe that!

.Because she appeared in Horsens in 2006 before ground had been broken on building this wee-stadium. She appeared on a Glastonbury-like stage on the training pitches With massive grass area easily accommodating 85,000 A bit like being at Hyde Park. .

Whilst your here, Philip ... Just read your 'twit-bits' from the GP last week. Please tell me that someone didn't really let you believe that Madonna played to 80.000 at the Casa Arena, did they?

At least it should make the implementation of the findings of the 'Warsaw Enquiry' so much easier (?) The interaction between BSI, Speedsport and future local SGP promoters will now have an extra dimension of 'diminished clarity', shall we say. Which will be nice. Perhaps, in Westminster, they are to delay the results of the Chilfott Enquiry until Euan Blair gets a place in government. Which I must add, he will do, of course, solely on merit. .

The bizarre thinking of this silly man is most comical " The rules have been clarified and now it’s clear what is, and isn’t, okay. " Yes, Greg. Let us all rejoice that you have made legal history in giving clarity on this matter. Running after a man and launching a full body assault IS against the rules. Here was me thinking that it was totally permissible. Idiot.

I thought I may be alone in thinking that the Taxi ride mentioned by the OP was not that exceptional at all? Back in the seventies we knew an old boy who used to go to Halifax from one of the outlying Pennine villages who did a similar journey themselves on an almost weekly basis. There was an another old chap that I chatted to occasionally at Rye House some years ago who did likewise from somewhere quite obscure and distant just to get his weekly Speedway fix. BW may not know this, but it is quite expensive to run a car nowadays With track closures, the distance from our nearest tracks has got larger and larger over the last few years. In the end I imagine I could spend this guys taxi bill each fortnight just on Speedway travel alone, quite easily. I'm afraid that is what people do to follow Speedway. We are all a little barmy in our own way to be still spending so much money, time and effort on the damn sport. To be honest, we all deserve a medal for still caring at all. .

No it wouldn't appease everybody at all. As it would increase costs again. And that is the only reason it was removed. That is why no sane promoter would ever return to it now. With or without tinkering.

Uncle Len would not be complaining about fairness though. It would be money. I always imagined that, after the toss for gate positions ,the coin he threw into the crowd was actually attached to him with elastic so he could retrieve it.

I really do wish that the arguments here over tactical rides and old tac subs could be made with more genuine understanding of each side. The TRUTH is that mathematically the old tac sub method was more 'unfair' than the newer tactical ride. BUT that to most people it never actually 'felt' like that. The tactical ride was introduced solely for cost cutting. Never to improve fairness. It achieved that aim very well. But to many it just seems a 'bad' rule. I have no idea whether such tactical rules have EVER had a dramatic effect on attendances. But, from memory, I never remember anyone complaining in the 'olden days' about the unfairness of tac subs (TWK excepted, no doubt). But I do remember a great detail of 'tactical talk' on the terraces on when or how they would be used. They may have been very unfair but they had the double whammy of tightening matches up and giving an extra dimention to the contest. Truth is I personally do not care one jot about the unfairness. I really liked tac subs. And I equally really lament their loss. Fairness, cost cutting etc are piffle to me. BUT I do hate the double point tactical ride. And the Joker in the SWC. Its just how I feel

For clarity. The Speedway News (12-10-1957) report for the meeting on September 30 at Poole says the Battle of Britain Trophy was awarded to Ken Mckinlay for finishing second in the Thompson Memorial Meeting, by the local RAFA.

There was a Battle of Britain Individual meeting held at Poole on September 30, 1957 These were the results: Brian Crutcher 15, Ken McKinlay 14, Aub Lawson 12, Gordon McGregor 11, Brian Hanham 10, Jimmy Squibb 8, Ronnie Genz 8, Jim Lightfoot 8, Ron Mountford 8, Terry Small 7, Dick Bradley 6, Maury Mattingley 5, Bill Holden 4, Frank Bettis 2, Norman Strachan 1, Merv Hannan 1, Dick Howerd 0.

Gustix ... You, helpfully, offered the definition of a troll. Not me. I happen to agree that it is a pretty accurate summary of some of your own behaviour on this forum. Any further explanations that you require may need more specialist assistance.

. As definitions go that sounds just about spot on. Now you have successfully diagnosed your own affliction. Are you going to mend your ways? .

I feel that we are overdue an intervention by the Archbishop of Sunderland. To defend the indefensible, yet again. 'It is his right to post utter drivel. But how dare you point out his madness, John?' I am reminded of the episode of Blackadder where Edmund put his underpants on his head and pencils up his nose to simulate insanity. "Wibble!" .

Shows what I know! I had put Mike Lee first as I thought that had been out the longest, but that was the 'Mike The Bike' DVD I was thinking of, not the 'Racing' Series. 'Kenny Carter Number One'. "It's written on my Van"

My guess would be 1-Michael Lee 2-Kenny Carter 3-Kelly Moran 4-Billy Sanders 5-Bruce Penhall

Oh quite agree. But I have yet to see a rider get any sort of 'improved' outcome, by swinging his helmet or kicking someone. When has NP ever found it helps?

Quite obvious that NP was wronged in this matter. It is his reputation that is his worst 'baggage' in these matters. And the authorities inability to divorce his past from each subsequent incident is lamentable. But his responses only highlight, yet again, the contrast with Saurday night. Just what a wise head Tai has on his young shoulders.

Exactly right. This 'extrapolating backwards' using the results from the 'old system' to judge what would have happened under a totally different system is comically flawed. EVERYTHING would have been different. In many, many ways. Ivan Mauger's 'professional' approach and commitment to being World Champion would have been decisive. He would have been massively better positioned to set up a 'GP team' of back up, so much more akin to the twenty first century guys. Most of the others would have been floundering.

One has admire the maturity of Tai. His reaction to the Final exclusion and his composed TV interview afterwards. Once the ref has made a decision like that, no matter how poor it may be, there is no currency in mouthing off. The ref won't change and all you'll do is 'wallow in negativity'. Best answer is to pocket the points and move on to another World Championship win. Quite a classy guy.

Not me

Saints preserve us! The conspiracy is outrageous. The revelations about Ted Heath will be wiped from the front pages.

Absolutely true. But ... then again ... More unfair to the leading side = More effective at its goal of artificially tightening matches up. Especially in a 13 heat format. That may also be why we liked it, as well?

I, very often, love to argue. Just for arguments sake. But even I have to laugh that one of the issues Speedway faces at the current time is the dilemma created by Terry Russell owning a small percentage of Speedway Star 25 years ago. For sheer bloody minded irrelevance that takes some beating. Well done HA.