Grand Central

They all look very ... 1990s. Is it deliberate ?

. There were twelve races at Warsaw and most of them were damn good. Petulant rider-power was the cause of the abandonment; aided and abbeted by lilly-livered officialdom. The comparision you make with the unrideable 3rd and 4th turns at the NSS is totally fallacious.

. Which sounds about right. I wish them every success in getting the people truly to blame to foot the bill.

.You could look at it that way, if you care about the silly boy at all. I prefer to dwell upon the legend that is PK. Genuinely well respected across the whole Speedway world. A real gentleman who represents everything we would want to celebrate; decency and loyalty. And a damn good rider to boot. Let's hope his Testimonial is not affected by the attendance of anyone unworthy of being his boot cleaner. .

That would be a reasonable thng for the journalist writing the news report for BSI to have questioned. Along with much more, before clicking to upload his daft story. But I understand the SpeedwayGP website comes under the stewardship of the same Mr Burbidge who has performed so poorly in the Star. Very little chance of anything more than 'telling his mates side of the story' from this guy.

On many threads I have been accused of being negative regarding decisions made by the BSPA. I now want to shout from the rooftops. WELL DONE BSPA! What a pillock that lad can be.

To get to March finding that Coventry and Belle Vue are open for racing at ALL will be a massive advance on what we feared just a few weeks ago. To get confirmation at they will both be able to present a full programme of Premiership fixtures with viable teams will be a like a dream come true for most fans. For us to already get the news that they will each be putting on an additional six fixtures of National League Speedway is a great bonus. How can anyone moan about this?

My goodness I hope you didn't pay money for him to give such an insightful view. It's surely just stating the bleeding obvious. And is the very reason they were created.

.You really do make it just too easy ... I now find myself being persuaded by the counter claims for Droylsden.

I thought I made it clear I was being childish.

At first glance I agreed with everything SCB put in the original post. And then ... gustix got involved. And unfortunately, it makes me realise that I am a 5 year old, after all. There is only one side of ANY argument for me. It just HAS to be the opposite one to gustix. Every time.

Like so many here I have been a weekly purchaser of the Star for my whole life. And for the last several years an online subscriber to the Exact editions e format. I offer no criticism of pricing or coverage. I certainly would never use the term 'crap'. It is a very pretty production and Speedway can expect no better. My 'beef' has always been over it's weak-livered editorial policy. On the whole, I actually think that Philip Rising (personally) does have the balls to give his honest view, when he chooses to exercise it. And when he does express a view I am happy to disagree with it, whilst appreciating his right to differ. Unfortunately the actual Editor - a Mr Clark I believe- seems to be devoid of any descernible opinion himself. But is happy to give full vent to the very narrow and restricted Burbidge-view of the Speedway world. Which is a pity. The Star's greatest failings IN MY VIEW have related to some of the biggest issues of the past few years. And it's very weak attitude towards them. Darcy Ward and the p!ssed up dehydration fiasco. BSI and it's "varied" record of performance (think Warsaw 2015) and Gelsenkirchen/Gothenburg and Cardiff before. Greg Hancock and the race fixing 'clutch' fiasco. Belle Vue and the hagiography of Gordon and Morton. All have represented very great lows in the life of the Star. It would not have cost a penny more than the good value £2.90 to have just done better with journalistic and editorial content.

Wrong, again. As is often the case. The reason I noticed the error was that my wife picked the card off the mat and said 'when is Cardiff this year?' My reply was 'not sure, why are you asking me it'll be on the card you're holding'. To be met with 'oh no it isn't' as she flung it down. So if that is 21st century marketing, I am a banana.

Mind you, don't be too hard on adamjohn. He might work for BSI. Those marketing whizzkids have just sent me two promotional cards "Christmas is coming ..." To promote ticket sales for Cardiff 2017.. Surprising no one thought it necessary to actually put the date of the event on the card.

It is occasionally useful to use an analogy or a metaphor. To shed light on a difficult subject and illuminate our understanding. After 'wading through that treacle'. I feel I know so much less.

It cuts both ways. Those BHS landlords would not rent it out at a knock-down rate, or at all, to the same sort of crap tenants they had last time, would they? The new guys in here, whether they are many calmouring to rent or not, will need to show they really can pay this time. No one can risk the same thing happening again

Err, well, yes. That does happen quite a bit. Have you not noticed how many town centres have large BHS stores all with no sign of new tenants.

They can only 'write off' debts to themselves. And they are probably not even able to do that, politically or legally. But the monies owed by the previous limited company to various third parties; much of it (apparently) predating the NSS, can be nothing to do with MCC and arrangements with new promoters.

That cannot be true. The Council can agree to arrangements about fees and monies they themselves are owed as they wish. The BSPA can come to it's arrangements with the old promotion via it's bond and disposal of Speedway 'assets'. But neither can conclude any 'deals' with new promoters that relate to the debts of the old promotion to third parties outside their own domain.

I can't imagine that BSI would be that keen on the idea of Belle Vue, right now. Having had to stump up the extra cash that PR has told us about just to get the damn meetings to go ahead last time. Surely they will want to have things sorted out before going back just yet.

There was some sort of industrial action at ITV in September 1979. This meant that the World Final never got onto UK screens and the only versions that knock around seem to have Danish (?) commentary. And, as you say, the WTC Final from White City was not filmed for TV at all, it would seem.

You are utterly deluded. It is not 'ideal' fir a wedding reception at all. What planet do you live on as regards modern weddings? The PC suite is a passable venue for some rather mediocre events. That is all. Up against the fantastic venues available within 5 or 10 miles it really does compare very poorly for a wedding. For Christ's sake, we haven't got the speedway side right yet. As a total package. So its daft to make really silly claims about things way beyond your expertise.

.Are you actually sure that is the true position. I understood that there was some sort of losn in place the 'rent' included some form of repayments on the capital. Are you really saying that in not the case and that BV Arena Ltd had NO capital repayments to keep up. That would be bizarre. But it seems to be what you are saying nonetheless. .

And those are your examples of how to pay for a multi-million pound stadium in Gorton. It's business 'acumen' like that, that has GOT them into this mess.

According to the MEN things are worse than we thought. Yesterday they were talking about a £7 million stadium. Today it is £8 million. Is financial incompetence catching?