Silver Bee

Hi guys, My Bees season review is now available here. http://underthescoreboard.blogspot.co.uk/ It's quite long but if you take the time to read it I'd appreciate it. All feedback welcome. Cheers.

So as a member of the promotion team you either won't, or can't, say what re admission details are stated in the programme and at the stadium? In the EL programmes from last season (perhaps you could confirm whether or not it has changed) it does not state specific readmission details and instead says they are available on request or at the turnstiles, so unless it has changed the 'information' you have provided is incorrect. Maybe you could also tell me where the clear labelling of these details exactly is so I can read them thoroughly before entering the stadium in future. The query was prior to the meeting, hence the original post I made on this thread. At the end of the meeting I wanted to go home and not continue to get soaked.

Would you like to confirm the wording in the programme, for those of us who don't feel the need to purchase one just to find out our rights? I find it very strange the turnstile staff were unaware of what readmission details were. You'd think as it is so clearly labelled they would just refer us to such literature. It's hardly a natural assumption that 2 meetings class as 1 as far as readmission goes. 2 meetings take place, 2 results are declared (well, occasionally) and you pay extra for that privilege. Readmission in the whole of speedway is an utter con, when I order a pizza if I only get 66% of that pizza the company aren't entitled to consider that an appropriate product and refuse to give any money back for it. At no point have I claimed this years double headers have been called off to make the promotion money, especially given the pathetic crowds. Both meetings were genuine call offs. The suggestion that last years double header call offs were genuine is absurd though, both were called off for curfew, a curfew which I believe is non existent based on information which has come from save Brandon meetings. A token gesture for fans who have now not seen the completion of either double header at Brandon is hardly beyond the realms of possibility but that's your prerogative as promoters. Just don't be surprised when the crowd is even worse, if that's even possible, at future storm events.

Members of the club hierarchy do read and post on this forum so I'll ask again. What are the rules regarding readmission for double headers? That's now 2 incomplete meetings from the last 2 double headers. No rules are stated anywhere concerning your rights and when asked last night turnstile staff did not know. No wonder no one turns up for storm meetings with the way the fans are constantly treated.

Last nights was a belter. Cracking racing.

Appreciate there isn't a huge deal of interest in these meetings but even so! Before attending the meeting, could someone connected with Coventry confirm what readmission details are for double header meetings? Whilst I appreciate any money owing would be minimal, the previous double header did not give us a result in the second meeting and no details have been given regarding readmission for either this or any restaging. There are no details of readmission provided prior to entering the meeting other than on request and it would be nice to know where we stand before entering what would happen if the same thing happened again. Also, our last 3 evening double headers (1 this year and 2 last) in the national league have been called off due to curfew. Could someone please confirm what the Brandon curfew is? Thanks in advance. Full gas storm and best wishes to Dan!

Rule book states they can't have a PL MA of more than 6.00 but nowhere does it states they must be in a PL declared line up at the time as far as I can see.

I thought I might make a one of return to post about my considerable displeasure concerning this meeting. If anyone wonders why speedway is on it's knees, they need look no further than this fixture. I'm a hardcore fan, I think you get that status when going to Buxton to watch a broken national league product and still stay for the midland development league meeting. I'd booked time off work, which at the moment is a massive struggle with the lack of staff we have got but I wanted to go after missing the A fixture so I made plans. As of 3pm this afternoon, there was absolutely no official word from Coventry about any missing riders despite the fact they had known about this clash for ages. It's now left me with 2 options, either travel all the way to Lynn to watch a shambles of a meeting and pay £16 quid for the privilege (cheers Jo, if you're reading, didn't put your prices up on this rant!) or waste half a days holiday. A situation completely avoidable if Coventry had just been honest from the outset and made clear a lot earlier what the actual situation for this meeting was going to be. The cardinal sin in this situation, in my opinion anyway, is the huge lack of information concerning the meeting. Announcing information like this in the afternoon the day before the meeting is not acceptable. Coventry have now put out a frankly pathetic statement essentially blaming everyone but themselves for this situation occurring. At what point exactly did they start to try and have the meeting changed given how long they have known about the clash? Why was it ever agreed to knowing our number 1 wouldn't be available and we would have to use a 3 pointer? Everyone elses fault but our own. Don't worry though, because it's not our own gate figures we will be ruining after all. Apparently we now have Cameron Heeps guesting for us. Why? The meeting is already a shambles, just send the storm boys to ride. They are there on Friday and would probably appreciate the track time. I'd just send Ryan Terry Daley and Martin Knucky as our guests and see how quickly the meeting got changed then. It's clear that Lynn have the ability to run on Thursday to avoid Danish clashes as they do for their own riders, however if Buster thinks he can run on the sort of crowd he will get tomorrow plus having to pay out 65+ in points money then good luck to him. It's pathetic that the meeting can't be changed but it's just the way all league speedway seems to be these days. All willing to get one over on someone and take the points when available but in reality it's the paying public that continually suffer because of it. I really have had enough of this shambles of a sport, and I will never be booking time off to go again. Promoters are crying out for bigger crowds and then continue to alienate the ones they already have and they have finally pushed me over the edge from die hard to floating fan who will go as and when I can be bothered. I've already been told but one half of the Horton brothers that my money wasn't wanted, based on this evidence it's clear that the other one doesn't care too much for it either.

I don't think they are, I read that as them asking for both years money as once

Who was next in line at the GP challenge?

Not just prize money with the GP's. The extra sponsorship deals likely to be offered to a GP rider are surely much higher.

Harris is a class exciting rider who finished second in the last completed GP. Has done more than Lindgren in his GP career with a GP win and joint 5th in the world which Lindgren hasn't managed. Not begrudging Lindgren a place but the justification you used for it is a bit silly. The wildcards are fairly dull with no real talking points.

They are sold a certain amount of tickets by the stadium and just give out 4 adult tickets to people asking for a family ticket. They are stamped with an unofficial 'concession' stamp, so the stadium take them as adult tickets. Should have pointed out it's not the official stadium ticket office, but the ticket office by the prince of wales. Don't worry about posting things like that to make correct info look invalid, though.

If you buy them in advance they state 'child' or 'u16'. That is the only concession on a seat at Cardiff. However if you buy them in the ticket office on the day, you can get a family ticket price but they actually give you 4 adult tickets.

Oh. Dear.

Barker did actually ride for Coventry in the ill-fated conference trophy team from Brandon so you could possibly include him. Ultimately if you are a top flight club you aren't going to "find" many riders. You are either going to sign riders from the PL or even NL, in which case other teams "found them" or you bring riders over. The majority of riders brought over are already stars or highly rated youngsters in other leagues so I doubt they count as "finds" either.

Belle Vue never look like winning nothing? I'd say they often look like winning nothing.

You think that Coventry are going to walk back into the EL with whatever rules we like when teams have already started building? There might be some middle ground (pawlicki?) but if we are in the EL it shouldn't really be on "our terms".

The Poles (Kolodziej excluded) all qualified by right for the GP 2010. Kolodziej, I believe, was second in both Swedish and Polish league averages. I don't know who, except Emil, and when you exclude nationality, is more deserving of a wildcard than him.

I think the British Final route to Cardiff will probably come to an end, but I imagine if the likes of Woffinden or Barker are flying high (and not just in Britain) then the FIM won't stop them getting the place.

My honest reply would almost certainly be against forum rules.

You told both of us we were wrong about double uppers getting averages last winter and were wrong yourself. Do you really want to go through all that again?

I'm stuck in Portsmouth, where can I watch it online?

It still should never have been announced as the first.

Well he binned it the Brandonapolis this year so I don't know where you've got that from.