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Like you, I'm not exactly clear why we switched our race night to Thursday's, probably trying to persuade Niels to sign.( that's purely a guess) But for Buster to declare Kerr as our preferred EDR rider, they must have had some form of communication of what was expected of Kerr in the coming season of 2016. Everybody knows how important the reserves are when assembling a team plus them fictitious order of selections. With Kerr as our preferred rider we get last choice of remaining riders. Had Kerr not been our preferred choice, we would have had first pick. So the nomination of EDR is of paramount importance to any club. If there had been any doubt that Kerr would not be riding for the Stars then it should have been known, and not pursued with him as their preferred choice. We could have elected to preferred Rose in the Tier 2 and had first choice in Tier 1. (we could have had first choice of Ellis). That was how important Kerr was to Lynn's season. When in was decided to switch race-nights to Thursday, Kerr had to make a choice. Does he stay with the team who had stood by him and helped him so much, the team that has put so much importance in him, or go to another club instead, who race on the same night.? We all know what he did, and has since been dropped like a hot brick. It doesn't make any difference whose fault it was, Kerr had a that choice. He could have ridden for Lynn on Thursdays and another PL club, I'm sure there were many who would have liked his services, but NO, he choice Ipswich instead.... To me that speck volumes for how he feels towards the Stars team the fans and their supporters. Then, he rubs salt into the wounds by riding for Lakeside as well... I'm sorry but Kerr has lost all my respect. An old saying: 'You never bite the hand that feeds you' ....

No, not bitter at all.... More a realistic view. Lewis Kerr has a lot to thank Lynn for the way the career has gone. When he suffered the nasty fall last year, nobody done more to help him than Lynn Stars and their fans. When or why it was decided to change race night to Thursday, Kerr was off like a shot, to a team who has now dropped him. When I checked the fixtures there were a few clashes, but bearing in mind the fixing chaos there will always be clashes..... What made it worse was Kerr our preferred EDR rider, meaning we lost out both ways. He didn't give Lynn much thought at all. Sorry if you feel differently .... Lambert did very well on Thursday, but expecting him to do that every week will be a tough ask......

Some say the grass is always greener, but it is not always the best options. Rambo elected to ride for Peterborough instead of us at the start of the year and Kerr dropped us right init.. I wouldn't be in a rush to welcome either back. Why change things, after all we have bigger problems at the moment than replacing Wilko. At least he was prepared to ride...... for the Stars.....

I admit they slipped up last night, but they have points on the board. There won't be many teams go to Belle Vue and win, so its not all bad. I have always thought they weren't that strong, but that can be said about a lot of teams, us included.... Should be in the mix for the minor places.....

Going back to last night's track, whatever the problem with the track, in heat 1 it was soon sorted and didn't show again all night. Looking back I was so impressed with Lewis Rose in heat 14. Bridger threw the sink at him in an effort to get by. Some will say he was excessive, it was an accident waiting to happen. by Lewis stuck to his ground and would not be moved. a truly brilliant ride. He seems to be improving with every week. Heart was in the mouth when Niels came off. It looked an awkward fall. had he withdrawn from the meeting we would have been like Lambs to the slaughter. Thankfully, he was soon back, and normal service was resumed. Both Lamberts, Robert and Simon were on the pace and scored well, Mads rode much better than his points suggest, and Batch is improving slowly. Seems to have more speed now but struggles on the corners. No doubt it will eventually fall into place, but has along way to go. I'm sure he will get back to the rider he was... As for this year, I believe Poole and Belle Vue are nailed on certainties to make the playoffs, Although, Lakeside, Wolves and Swindon are doing well at the moment, I don't feel they are cast iron bets for the top 4. Together with the remaining 3 teams, I feel there are going to be a lot of movement before those final two places are assured....

All this talk about legality of the riders and the position they were riding are just issues created by a stupid rule book. Nobody knows what the rules actually are. Some teams have squads of riders whereas other teams only have the minimum 7. There will always be problems till the all teams are reading from the same hymn sheet. Which ever way it was looked at we fielded too many Draft riders, and Wolves needed too many replacements. As far as the purest goes this was a speedway meeting between two scratch teams, that turned out pretty good. We had another match that went to the last heat, and again Lambert and Niels took the spoils. Both teams done OK, with the Stars being deserving winners. I think if both teams were at full strength the scores would have been similar. Apart from Niels heat one fall there were no hold ups He later proved he had no ill effects scoring 4 race wins, I can't see any reason to be disheartened.... Another decent meeting........

Thanks for that info, as usual the fans are last to know. When most clubs get a reserve switch, they are inevitably stronger having a good rider dropping down to have extra rides against weaker opposition. This switch has made us a considerably weaker team..... As with all the rules, This idea, make the strong teams stronger, and the weak teams even weaker.....

Can someone please explain, how or why is Rose at 4. Surely his averages arent that good. He's a tier 2 EDR rider. Wolves are able to bring in Kerr, a second string to replace a EDR Howarth, and we do it the other way round. Strange !!!!

Wow hang on a minute!! , I never said get rid of Batchelor. When thinking of the Sport and the Stars situation, beggars cant be choosers. Such is the state of speedway in this country, there are not enough top riders to pick and choose. I know Batch has his faults, but he can also be a match winner. One his day he can beat the very best. My only hope is that he has more good days than bad.... But us, as fans, are allowed an opinion. Be him good or bad, as long as you're not offensive, we have the right to say. Also, had I been Buster, I would have done all I could to have persuaded KB to ride this year as well... You knew he would have won a few races at least..... even against top riders..... Now we have lost another rider, who has decided to give the Elite league a miss. They're not many left.....

I would give him all the time in the world to get back to fitness. no problems there. But if your attitude is wrong, then the fitness and form are irrelevant. What he done the other night, was show the world his attitude was all self. He had no thoughts for the team, the fans or the sport. I'm afraid giving him a couple weeks to sort that out won't change anything..... Shame really, Got loads of ability... Had his attitude been in gear, he could have achieved far more than he had.....

Ever the optimist....... How many chances does one need. Confucius said ' There is always an excuse when you look for one'

Rob Lyon will never speak out against the ref. I agree it was a good meeting, one that we were expected to lose. Lose with pride, or lose with effort can be applauded, but to give up like Batchelor is disgraceful. He had no excuse.........He doesn't deserve any support. The rules this year are rubbishe... Why should a team be penalised for doing no wrong is beyond me. First: When Rose was taken down, we then had to ride a race with only 3 riders, even though the person responsible was still allowed to compete and win. Secondly: Surely a team can only nominate the riders once, when they he commits a foul, then its 15yds or a reserve replacement. It cant be win-win-win all the time.... Stupid rules!!!!!!

It's not my intention to run Lambert down, but sometimes I feel he should be winning more races. The man has immense talent and capable of beating the best. Last night, we needed somebody else to step up to help Niels. Heat 14 was critical. Lambert done well in beating Doyle twice, but then lost twice to lesser opponents. Even after 4 yrs of racing, gating is still his nemesis. Its all very exciting watching him come from the back, but good riders are hard to pass. If he can't get his gating sorted he will never fulfil his obvious potential

I don't know whether this was a point gained or points lost. Although I enjoyed the night's racing, the standard of the Elite teams, these days are pretty poor. Fair play to Swindon who battle well, but you didn't have much to beat. Niels tonight was majestic. His desire to win stood out like a beacon. Most of the time he was made to battle, but true to his stature he reign supreme. What a pity the others don't show the same attitude as Niels. Mads with slow bikes, and rusty Batchelor didn't help the cause. Huckenbeck and Wilko were poor, Rose done his job. In the end, it was left to Lambert to scrap a point. Yes, a brilliant last race against Doyle, but I was disappointed with Lambert and expected more from him than the single race win he managed. As a heat leader, he has to do better than that.... Looking at the team as a unit, we are weak. I remember when we raced in the Premier League we were better than this. Take Niels away and we are in Dire Straits. Its a long time since our team was this poor. you can rest assured we will finish nearer the bottom than the top of the league. Any thoughts of reaching the 'Play-offs' is just wishful thinking.....

Why do you have to be so offensive......Answer to your question is Yes. I and others thought the track was sabotage to get the meeting cancelled. We, had travelled 350 miles thinking we had a chance against a weakened team on a wet track. But in truth we had no chance, as the meeting was never going to go ahead. We were the mugs, travelling all that way, aware of all the previous under handed behaviour Poole are renown for..... It won't happen again, That I can assure you .......

The track at Wimbourn road has always been suspect, even going back to the Malcolm Simmons and Michael Lee era's it was never the track that riders enjoyed racing on. Of all the tracks I've visited this one has to be the worse. It amazes me that someone, held in such high esteem as Matt Ford, still expects his riders to put their life on the line, when he could have made the track much better for them to ride. When we visited Poole for the POSF 2 years back, they had made a ridiculous hole on the first corner, ensuring the match to be called off. Probably they are now getting there comeuppance, you cant go digging up holes in a track and expect the base to be solid...... It should have been relayed years ago....

It was not my intention to annoy you, but to me , your comments was not warranted for a man who has at least tried to promoted the sport. Sure he had mistakes, If it was that easy, everyone would do it. also, you elected to include Poole in your name, so letting people know who you support. It is common knowledge on here that the majority of poole supporters think only of Matt Ford, so you will always be tarred with that brush... . It is very difficult to compare buying a greengrocery shop to that of promoting Speedway, but I understand your point. From your post, you obviously made some good decisions and have been successful in your trade. But no doubt you also made some bad decisions as you found your way. We need to support people like David Hemsley, Without them the sport will die.....

A typical response from a Poole Fan. This Guy has tried to make speedway work, He has built a track, that is far better than anything I've seen in Dorset , and you come out with comments like that. The sport is in desperate need of more people like David Hemsley. I suggest you get off your arse and put some positive work into the sport like David Hemsley has done, then you'll be able to make a worth-while comment... until then go outside and play.....................

If only!! The rules for the EDR are so ambiguous The one thing that stands out about all the rules, is that they are never crystal clear.

I never thought I would ever say this, but my desire to go to watch speedway has completely gone. For 50 yrs I have followed the up and downs of the Kings Lynn Stars always feeling that illusive title was just a season away. But nowadays I feel so distant from the club that always put principals before success. Over the past few months the club has all but forgotten about the fans, and everything revolves around cost cutting. The fans now are treated like mushrooms and are expected to come just because there's a match on.. Not Me. Yes I could go elsewhere to watch, but in all honesty I've had a gut full of the BSPA and their Pathetic rules. Their favouritism towards certain promoters has destroyed everything that was good about league racing. And them stupid FTR Reserves idea is just there to be manipulated. Anybody with any sense, can see what is happening to this once loved sport, yet nobody is man enough to do anything about it. I wonder how many more feels Like I do....

If, by chance, there was an interesting party, willing to plough some much needed funds into this sport, and thought about looking into the subject: Good Idea!!, Search Google, then See British. Speedway Forum, that should be the place to get some idea of how the sport is doing. God help them.. and we wonder why the sport don't attract the right backers.... Going through the previous 15 pages you actually realise the state this sport is in. Its all but dead.. There's nothing left worth arguing about... and as for spending £17 to go and watch.. forget it.......

What a wonderful person you really are. Your post says far more about you than it does me. I was taught to respect others, treat them the way you want them to treat you. But you are different breed. Never have I felt attacked and insulted by what you posted. It is quite obvious your assessment of me is so far from the truth its unreal. Nobody was more outspoken of the Draft system than I , Even one of your 'Likes' labelled me as a scare manger and said I was making a mountain out of a mole hill. And you labelling me as a LIER is as bad as it will get. I would like to call you thick, but I have too much integrity to do that...... You don't get the fact, that just because Lynn started well and I spoke about Kerr and Rose with a comment of 'grow your own' has nothing to do with how I felt about the drift idea in principal.... I remember being annoyed at the time of people moaning because Lynn were well clear at the top, yet they all agreed with the drift in the beginning. It seemed that only I could see the problems that lay ahead, and those facts were overlooked just because are draft riders were scoring well. So please, interpretate this post any way you like..... I'm too long in the tooth to be insulted by the likes of you. I have never called someone a liar, I have never been called one. I speak as I find and that sometimes hits a nerve. I have no wish to partake in this forum anymore ....... To people I have communicated with, I like to wish you well, I can't be arsed to justify my being to the likes of the above, So I will take my leave from the forum and bid you all farewell.

My labelling some as kids was in response of them liking something that was untrue, that reminds me of school day when you side with something without knowing the true story .. This is not about opinion it is fact. I have never agreed, said or posted that I thought the Draft was a good idea. Whatever way ORION wants to interpretate it is up to him but it does not make it correct. And for those who think that deserved a 'like' then so be it... Scaremongering, Rumour spreader, Timer waster, was just a few of the names I was called in my outspokenness of the Draft ideas. So no doubt those 6 people have selective memory..... What disappointed me most, is that I posted a comment outlining at least 5 points why the teams are having problems assembling a fair side. all of them relevant points. The only response I received was a personal jibe from ORION which bared no relevant to the post at all. .. That to me speaks volumes........

You and your 'Liked' disciples, are a like bunch of kids....... Please, go back and find a post that said I thought the Draft was a good idea. You'll have a long look !!! . I have always been outspoken about the ridiculous idea and the problems it creates. The problems far out weighs the advantages...... Because of my objections to the draft scheme I have been called many things, but it seems ironic now that all the problems I highlighted has come to fruition. Going back to my comment about 'grow your own', I posted that, in response to a petulant post , when at the time I thought was rather petty . A general discussion was taking place about the good and bad of the FTR idea, when some poster pointed out we (Lynn) were alright as we had both Kerr and Rose. and I responded with the comment of grow your own..... That wasn't an admission that I liked the scheme it was purely a response to someone who was jealous of our riders....... I hope we can put his to bed once and for all............

I except, some of the blame is down to the Lynn promotions, but having problems assembling a fair side needs to be proportioned to the organisation of the BSPA as well.. These past years the sport has lost all direction . At this point, we have riders all on false averages, we have far too many team points available for the riders that want to race here, on those fictitious figures, We even had to make up a heat leader list, of riders who don't want to ride, and...... come the first month that list will be thrown away, We have a draft system that is so unfair it's unreal. The idea was created to distribute the young English rider equally and also to save promoters money. Ride against the same they said, It that why some teams have 2 tier A draft riders and others having none. sure sounds fair to me...... At a time when the sport needs to be correct and impartial, I cant think of much more they can do wrong.... We need to promote this sport to all and sundry. but promoters, acting like dictators doesn't create anything positive at all. . We have too many rules, Too many conditions, Too many reasons why nobody comes anymore. How can it get any worse..........