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Post like the above really outlines all the problems that exist with our sport.... EL , Pl and NL should all be as one and rules, regulations, governing bodies and format should apply to all leagues. Posters like the above talk of one league as if its superior to the others. Let gets one thing straight here, the reason the sport is in the dire straits its in, is because of attitudes like this. It should be every clubs and every fans ambition to ride in the top league. Any other intentions merely highlights the ridiculous attitudes that exists between the leagues.... Here's hoping Buster can install some common sense....... We sure need it....

I wouldn't be too sure of that...... Cant believe I agreed with Starman, but they were some of the truest words he has said

I have no doubt that we changed race nights merely to facilitate Niels riding for us last year. If what we hear is true about Danny king joining the Stars, then it would be conceivable our race nights could be reverting back to Wednesday. This development answers 2 questions: 1, Will there be a specific BEL race nights, and 2, Will Neils be riding for Lynn this year and the answer to both is surely NO. Have no problem with either but it will be interesting to see what these drastic changes are going to be..... and what effect they are likely to make...

Me too mate.... As good as he is, when you agree for your top man to ride if and when, it gives a bad message to the rest of the team. We want riders who are prepared to ride every match....

This has been the situation now for many years. I thinks its criminal that tuners are taking big money away from the sport at the expense of the Promoters and Fans. Separating the SGP as a unique F1 of speedway, where tuning is allowed, all the other events,the bikes are far too expensive for the fan base that supports the bread and butter league racing. Bikes should be standardised and sealed to reduce these cost and bring more equal competitive racing that the fans can afford. Even to go as far as standardise the payments for team positions. We need to control these cost else the sport will die....

Was amazed the first time we went there. Compared to the deserted dog track we converted back at Lynn, this was another world. We sat in the main stand and watched the meeting from behind the glass. The drinks flowed all night, and when we were ready we ordered our meals. Such a civilised existent. This took us to another level of the sport.. Such was our enjoyment we pledged to go to the International (Whit-Monday) every year.. It wasn't the best racing, nor was the track that special, but for excitement and enthusiasm this was always a special meeting. It was a sad loss when speedway was finished there.. Thinking about, West Ham, Hackney; Wembley, Wimbledon, why can't teams in London make it pay..????

This is what democracy is all about. It is what makes Britain great. Take that away, and we would be in the same situation as many other third world countries. Having free speech is wonderful, points can be viewed and decisions made. But when a vote is taken, that is the time then we should comply...... Unlike you I believe the public have a right to vote. Probably they don't understand the economics but there are many things they do understand, and in their eyes equally as important as you place on monetary terms. You have this conception that everybody feels as you do. I believe I made the right choice in voting to leave. I did a lot of soul searching and investigation before making that choice. No doubt other people did the same thing. If the vote was taken again today I would still vote the same way. 3months down the line I haven't seen anything yet to cause me concern.. The public made their choice and were entitled to their view. The fact it differed from your opinion is unfortunate.... Get over it......

Remembering the first referendum back in the 70's when we first voted to join the Common Market, there wasn't this background of attitudes against the outcome. I appreciate the result was more conclusive then but, as I remember everyone accepted it.......even those who were dead against it at the time.......

Totally aggree with Deano, but we get back to the same aged problem, the sport has endured for years, in that when decision come to a vote at the AGM the PL will always out number the opposition. The sport has been demanding a new structure for years and until that happens nothing will change. My one hope was Buster would be able to implement these structural changes and that the sport can be run as one. While the divides of the 2 divisions exist the sport will continue its downward spiral. Individually, I've always respected Promoters for what they do and try to achieve. But collectively they must be some of the most self minded people you'll ever meet. Surely they must see when all the promoters are singing from the same hymn sheet, the sport and everybody associated with it, would benefit....

I am sure had the vote gone the other way , there wouldn't be all the adverse behaviour as we are at the moment., some obviously, there are always some who wont accept. A democracy is where we go with the majority, right or wrong. I don't agree with what you say, the public has the right to vote when it is this important. What they voted for and how they voted was to there choice. Who are you to say they were wrong. There's more to life than making money. If it beneficial for you to more your trade Holland then please do so. What a sad perception you have, saying ' a bunch of middle aged white people' sold you down the swanny. That comment alone speaks volumes of your selfish attitude. Over 17 million people voted to leave the EU, they can't all be wrong... Probably the majority voted against people like you, where the few earnt far more than the masses, probably they were fed up being taking for a ride. probably they voted for a change. We will never know the full details only that they voted with their belief....... For those who cant accept it, then you have a big issue. If you decide to move back into the EU, I wonder how long it will be before you're back.. They say the grass is always greener.....

When we had this referendum vote on EU, most people, if not all, expected the vote was to stay. We were all subjected to weeks of scare mongering, everyone telling us what was right and what was wrong. A democratic vote when everyone has their say. To me this was what it was all about, when we all vote for what we wanted. There was always going to be those who voted against the majority decision, but that what a democratic vote is. You go along and accepting the majority. It appears now, not only on this forum, we have plenty who don't want to accept this vote. Instead of which, are going on and on trying to undermine the voice of the people with their ideas of what they did was wrong. To me, these minority are doing nothing to help the cause, other than wallowing in their own self pity because the vote went against what they believed. Of course it's never going to be rosy from the start, which ever way the vote went. But wouldn't it be better to get on board with the preferred choice rather than whittling on about the lost opinion. Like it or not we are leaving the EU. From someone who is old enough to have experience from both sides of the argument. the future doesn't have to be that good to be better than it has these past few years........ Lets give it a chance.......

I don't advocate all this talk of GH being stripped of his World Title. The rules are very ambiguous and can be interpretated various ways, but the truth being, he accumulated more points than the other riders and so is rightfully acclaimed as 2016 World Champion. However, acting in the self righteous way he did was wrong and should be penalised. To escape with a fine would be wrong. Banning him for the first 2 SGP's next year would be sufficient punishment and also a deterrent to any other riders thinking of doing similar in the future. He more than any other should've know better. He has no defence for the way he let everyone down .......

Whilst I agree with what you say about the format and rules attracting new supporters surely, first and foremost we need to keep the existing fans the sport has managed to retain and that is why they need to be addressed and simplified. If we cant make the rules and format appealing to seasoned fans, we don't stand any chance of retaining new support IF we managed to attract any....... Regards to cost, too much importance has been placed on riders expenses and gate costs have increased to accommodate them in preference to the affordability. The entrance fee should be fixed at an affordable figure (say £10) and all tracks charge the same. If the numbers don't cover the expenses, then Sponsors have to be found to balance the books. Probably this way the Promoters will promote the sport better than it is doing at present.... I am I no doubt the cost keep attendances down. Not many families can finance a trip out like they once could .... N.B. Do hope I have not made too many spelling errors. It seems some people find that more important than the comment itself........

Todays SGP was a terrific meeting spoilt by a few incidents. I don't condone Hancock for slowing down and helping another rider, we see this regularly through the season, but to do it so blatantly was insulting and against the integrity of the sport. Yes, the FIM did right in reprimanding Hancock, but for him to pull out, was an insult to everything that speedway thrives to achieve. People had paid good monies to watch and television broadcasting it over the world, this was a bad move. The crime of helping another rider is hard to police and difficult to prove and for this reason I think a public warning could have servised. Hancock, for his part should have been more professional and thought of others instead of himself. His actions belittled the occasion when it should have been the grand finale of the season. My opinion of Hancock has deteriated in recent times and todays episode only emphasises them thoughts. Hancock has ridden consistently all season and should be rightly acclaimed as the World Champion, but unfortunately today he will be remembered for the ungracious attitude he portrayed when he was taken to task...... Shame that.... Spelling changed

God almighty.... Sometimes you talk utter crap. When the price of crude oil goes up, like it did last week, it effect every country . Not just those who voted on Brexit......

I am in no doubt you will blame every conceivable problem on the Brexit Vote. Why, if the truth be known, you even blamed Brexit for Poole not winning the Elite this year..... Prices for food and fuel fluxuate all the time and now it little different. You sit in your ivory tower and cast opinions that are solely biased. I voted to leave and have no regrets. I voted with my eyes open and a clear mind. and am well aware of the procedure that lays ahead. I wake up each morning and think many things,.......... But not one thought about that referendum vote.......... I'm more than happy..

Just want to say I always try and read your comments. I find your opinions are astute and are always worthy of consideration. Your opinion is not guided by your BV support and its obvious you have deep concerned for the sport.... What a pity there are not more posters like you.........

That's a 64 dollar question, but as the job goes Rory would be an idea candidate. Renowned for his motivational skills, when captain, he stood head and shoulders above everyone else in getting all the team to perform. Probably with a bit of luck against all them injuries, when we were 30 points ahead a few yrs back we could have easily won the league that year. Until that major accident, Rory was making a big difference, just by being there.... His world wide contacts would be a godsend, and could be the difference on getting in new talent who want to improve.... Buster is OK but has too much on his plate to worry about chasing riders for the Stars. he needs to delegate.... Rory would demand respect from the riders, He's ' Been there done that' and would help in all manner of ways. Nobody would argue his ability and experience. No, nobody could guarantee anybody to be a successful Team Manager, but nobody would be better qualified for the job than RORY!!

The consequences of having protected heats, was always going to impale the averages, to a point when they would be deemed useless.. This was pointed out back in Dec 2013, when it was suggested, we have some form of calculation to get the truer figure from the easier heats. But as usual, this suggestion was frowned upon . Welcome to the real world....

I certainly hope not..... That would be the final nail....

For thinking outside of the box, this has to be one of the best options I've read. We need to think along those lines for survival. Our sport is in need of a new direction and this could be the idea needed to move forward. The amount of time we go to a meeting when there is nothing at stake and riders going through the motions destroys any competitive racing, this would add tremendously to teams attitude... We don't have to have SGP riders to get big crowds at meetings. Our sport cant finance them anymore. The sooner we realise that we can move forward... Mike BV : Brilliant idea.......Only hope the BSPA are watching and taking note.....

I feel like you sound. I don't know what to expect from this years AGM, but come to that, I'm not particularly bothered. For many years I've eagerly awaited the news that would be encouraging for the sport to prosper, changes that would be instrumental in bringing the sport back to the mantel it once shared. But now it seems my enthusiasm has reached an all time low and quite frankly have given up all hope of it ever changing. The one big positive that has come this year was the opening of the NSS and the spectacle of fantastic racing was a sight to behold. But the BSPA cant be awarded any praise for that. When we think of the BSPA, we think of uneven teams, bias selection processes, ridiculous riders averages, unrealistic decisions on rider replacements, heat leader lists, bad fixture planning, the list is endless....... We even have to plan the top riders to race each umpteen times just to make up competitive racing. Where once speedway was the be all of everything in my life, now I prefer to go for a walk... ..... At least that way, everything is as it should be without someone trying to pull a fast one...............

Was talking to an old friend last night, who as always sport mad... Having not spoken with him for many years. I asked him, you still going to motor racing, yes he replied. and he said you surely aren't still going to that Speedway lark . I replied I still go..... He continued, Crazy man.... Twice I've been. pay through the nose and then stand and wait about. 1 minute of racing then 10 mins waiting for the next. People filling in programmes as if it was more important than the racing. You must be sad to keep going there. No wonder the place was empty.... He reckoned the admission was dearer than Motor Racing and the racing time was 10 fold better.... I tired to justify my choose, but it was difficult. I had to agree with him.....

It was the will of the people. Those that didn't bother to vote can't be considered. They had the chance like all of us but gave up their opinion when they couldn't be bothered. Although saying that, the turnout was far bigger than the General Election ....

My take on this referendum is that the bigger percentage of people didn't know enough of the important issues to base a solid opinion. This is the reason that Cameron thought we could be easily led, and thought he could push it through without too many problems. Big mistake, as he never afforded us with any sense. Had he done a better job when trying to put our case to the EU power instead of rolling over like a lap dog, then this referendum wouldn't have been necessary. From his high post he used ever conceivable way possible to persuade Joe Public to roll over like him. He spent millions of pounds of tax payers money to projects this ideas, he brought out all the old cronies to help this cause, even the president of the States had his two pennies worth as well. We had every expert in the land telling us what we must do. I have no doubt his tactics persuaded many peoples vote to stay, but he still could win that vote. Imagine what the percentage would be had he let people vote their own opinion. This was a result for the people who wanted change, this was a result against the way this country was being run, this was a result against Cameron for dismissing the public like he did. This was a result of many things.... Did the leave voters know enough to vote sensibly, no probably not, but no less than those who wanted to stay. Was it the right vote:- who knows, only time will tell.. But instead of people on here going on and on about the wrong vote, lets give the leave campaigner's their glory and lets us make a bloody good go at making it a success.