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The fact, you are new to this forum, but following a comment like the above probably you're new to the sport as well. If we can acquire most of them players you mentioned, I have no doubt we will be very inspiring and in the running for a top 4 finish... Holder, Batch and Lambert would be equal heat leaders to any mentioned team so far, Likewise, Porsing, Rose and Huckenbeck would also be competitive. So your idea about losing support is also well off the mark.... I appreciate everybody is entitled to an opinion but usually there is some knowledge that backs up what people are thinking....... Looking at the teams so far , I think the one you mentioned would more then hold their own......

I have always had this perception, that if the specticle is good enough the fans will come. Obviously with a winning team, they are a bigger draw than one that is losing alll the time. Although there can only be one winner at the end, there can be many winners along the way. Attending speedway at the NSS has got to be a winner, regardless of the team. As long as people feel entertained and not ripped off, the support will be there. Because there is not a better venue in the whole of the country, you have a massive advantage in Manchester. Treat the fans right and the rest will follow. The actual members of the team is not important at this point, all you want is riders that appreciates the superb race track and who prepared to give 100% to the cause.....

Shame to see this situation evolving...... From an ousider, speedway doesn't look like its likely to continue at Bradon, and that will be tragic. What was once the Mecca venue for the sport, has descended into a battlefield of 2 self destroying personalities...

Still feeling confident he'll be with the Stars for 2017......

What a sorryfull state our sport is in. A lot of us has been saying this for some time, but the BSPA seemed reluctant to make those changes needed to survive. But at last they now recognise the dire straight's the sport is in and hopefully we can now turn the corner. The sport could not continue to pay our these huge fees for top riders, our numbers won't allow that to happen. But I see no reason why we cant have competitive racing that we can afford, and COULD interest new fans.. After all they don't know who NKI is...... onwards and upwards......

Don't count me in that statement.. Only missed 12 meetings in 6yrs and most of them were due to Holidays.... Have never missed a match when I was free to go to..... Mind you I left early a few times, when the performance, or the application or the progression has been rubbish. Just because Buster gets my money every week, doesn't mean I don't have an opinion. As most know I speak as I find......Good or Bad.....

GRW has always been a team player, and expects 100% from everybody all the time. Sometimes, his comments can be taken the wrong way when leading from the front. Being relegated to Reserve is OK with me. Its being in the team that matters, and able to take some extra rides and responsibility suite me just fine......

Thank you kind Sir !! Have never been a No1 before, at anything........

The last one I went to was at the Football ground at the Walks, Since having the events at the track I have always paid to go in. Been and seen Tatum/Pearson twice, plus nights with Niels and Rory and all of them cost money. Cant remember missing a supporter meeting, but then again I cant be sure..... But thanks again for the info

Anybody have more information about Friday. Seems very little info other than its on Friday in the Club Bar room. Have seen nothing about tickets? Cost on the door, time it starts. Doors open....... Hope it all goes to plan.....

I wish I was as confident as you about that.......

i will be much happier when Poole annouce their final rider. I wonder why the delay !! Could it be that it's not so automatic as some seem to think. Could it be the last name was someone like Batch, or even Lambert, which would really screw any aspirations that the Stars fans may have. They have enough points to play with ?? Matt Ford is a lot of things but stupid he is not. No doubt, allowing Holder to go would have to be compensated. But surely Lyons isn't stupid enough to fall into that trap of letting his Star asset go ... Could be a long week.....

i will be much happier when Poole annouce their final rider. I wonder why the delay !! Could it be that it's not so automatic as some seem to think. Could it be the last name was someone like Batch, or even Lambert, which would really screw any aspirations that the Stars fans may have. They have enough points to play with ?? Matt Ford is a lot of things but stupid he is not. No doubt, allowing Holder to go would have to be compensated. But surely Lyons isn't stupid enough to fall into that trap of letting his Star asset go ... Could be a long week.....

If the Lynn team included Holder, Batch and Lambert as heat leader, that would be equal to anything in the league. To have them in the races at the business end of the meeting would make Lynn very formidably. The Second strings of Porsing, Huckenbeck and Rose will be comparative with any of the teams named so far. Porsing and Huck. are both very capable and will only get better. Their averages are low but their talent is high. I see no reason why they both won't improve their average significantly. Giving them the opportunity on fast bikes they will surprise a lot of people... Lewis Rose was always going to come good. Sharp gater, smooth style, all he needed was an injury free run. After 3 years of troubles, last year he showed the progress we had all expected. Elevated into the team proper he still scored valued points and achieved a creditable average from his 1-5 position.. I see no reason why this form wont continue . I'm not silly enough to predict success from the off, but at least this year we should be in with a shout for those Play-Off places from the start, and that's something we haven't been able to do for a few years now....

Some of the comments appearing on these pages are unreal. Posters questioning the status of Chris Holder as if he was mear club racer. Chris Holder is a World Class rider, probably ranked in the top 5 of the world. There are few equal to his talent, and KK and Andersen don't come into that category. Ok he may have struggled with his form early on last year, but didn't he come back really strong. Considering the physical and mental problems he's had to endure in recent years I would suggest he has recovered remarkably well. I for one think Matt Ford has dropped a real clanger. With Chris Doyle recovering from a bad injury, No NKI, No Zagar, No AJ, I see Holder being top spot and filling his boots every meeting. There's an old saying: 'You don't kill the Goose that lays a Golden Egg' and that's what Ford has done by getting rid of him.....

The only reason Holder has this high average is because of the 1.4 calculating process. It is obvious his score will reduce because of that. Riding last year at No1 he averaged 8.90 against a far harder standard and format then he will in 2017. He will again be one of the top rider competing and I have no doubt he will finish the season with a higher score than last year. We have been fortunate and privileged these past few years to watch one of the sports great riders in NKI, In Holder we will have the chance to see one of the few riders able to replace the hole Niels has left......

A good article in the SS this morning from Armando Castagna explaining the rules that the Polish Speedway have initiated. He went on to say the authorities have not broken any rules, and that the riders would have to had signed a contract in agreeing with the 3 Club Rule. Putting aside the 2 top paying leagues namely Poland and Sweden, most of the Danes will ride their Danish home league making the total of 3. But riders like Holder and the other Aussies have a more open options, making it possible to ride in our league... Have heard a few whispers that Holden is destine to ride for the Stars..... Fingers crossed this is correct....

I was aware of some restrictions, but I suspect that's more than enough opportunity......

Considering the location of the Leicester track, probably the noise factor could come into play if the club wanted to practise during the day.!!! Am just trying to evaluate the situation, but am hoping, Leicester gets all the help they require to make it a going concern.

With each team that is announced for 2017, it is quite a relief that the riders, a lot of supporters have earmarked for the Stars quad are still available, giving us plenty of reasons to be optimistic and enthusiastic about our hopes for the coming year. The location, Holder chooses to ride, really holds the key for many teams. Of the 3 remaining, namely Belle Vue, Leicester and Kings Lynn they can all offer him top status to lead the team . Thinking about the track, Airport and facilities then BV must come high on the list. If he wants a real challenge then Leicester really does need a talisman to lead from the front and encourage the team forward. But if he wants to ride for a solid club with their own track then it will be Lynn. there are not many track abouts that are open everyday to practice and getting the bike set up for the meetings in Europe. All Clubs will have to meet his financial demands, but am hoping the track availability will swing it... Although I had hoped he would come to Lynn, my original thought was Somerset. Now they have announced their side, my next fear is BV. Fingers crossed...

You 're a bit adrift of what was being said. We known what the format (2017) is, we were discussing the option of having Holder on board for that season. My response was talking of the format to be use in (2018) and nobody knows that yet......... Please keep up if you wish to post an opinion

Nobody knows of the format or the rules for next year. The only reason Holder has a high average is because of the loading put on Elite riders. I think it is wrong of you to tar all riders with the same brush. Having been dropped this year I cant imagine Holder would be too keen on helping Matt Ford out as you say. Holder needs to earn a living wage and will score plenty of points.... I'm of no doubt that if he rides in the Premier next year he will be one of the top riders....... No worries.......

The signing of a strong No1 is paramount and Holder fits the bill perfectly. This would come at a financial cost of some stature. This being the case then other positions in the team will have to be adjusted accordingly. No doubt Rose would be a much cheaper option than Hansen, but not so much of a gamble, so bearing in mind the No1 importance, Rose inclusion seems quite a safe bet... At the end of last season, when talking with Batch, he said I'll see you all next year. he continued that he still has some boxes to tick!!! So from that I gathered he intends to ride here next year. I appreciate nothing is cast iron facts but if your intention is here than we are half way to a contract.... Speedway at Lynn wouldn't be the same without Robert Lambert. He needs Lynn as much as Lynn need him. This should be the year when he cements himself as a true NO 1 in the sport. With the right attitude and equipment, he could become unbeatable, and next year when Poole will want Holder back, we would already have a perfect replacement. If we can get those three, plus the 2 already mentioned, then adding Holder and a new reserve to the mix we would have a strong team, that others would be aware of and a top 4 place could be achievable.

I may be wrong, but I don't see it that way !! Incorporating Lawson in, on a high 8.22 average, undermines the good work of bringing in Porsing and Huckenbeck on much lower scores.. Michelsen would be an option, but a far bigger risk than using Rose, who in my opinion is a cert team member.... The big question mark still remains , who will be our No1.?? The naming of Somerset team on Monday might answer a few question. It will take a few riders out of the shop window, if nothing else.

Now you're being too transparent. We're talking about the BSPA here, nothing is that simple..... I've always had this feeling that rules are worded so they create loopholes... Buster is doing OK and hopefully he will eradicate these issues, but Rome wasn't built in a day...