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I believe the whole evening was over after that Heat 4 crash, That's why I believe having a track that grippy was a gamble too far !!....

How about you going with them to Waterstones and buying some books For Dummies: ' How to be a Responsible adult'

I have always appreciated your straight forward answers and the information you give . It gives a different perception to what we actually see. Your account of Race 2, I find somewhat contradictory. Nicklas made a decent start and won comfortably riding on the preferred line. How can he comment on part of the track he didn't use?? I find that strange. Also in race 4, you say THJ said he went into the corner too fast and too deep. Here we have a world class rider who has travelled the world and taken part in the SGP, yet he says he made a mistake. To me, I would've thought he was more than able to race on any conditions, and feel this comment was based on not biting the hand that feeds you.... THJ is no mug, he is not a novice , he is more than capable rider, yet the track made him lose it..., If this accident had happened to 'Ryan Kinsley' I say fair enough, but SGP riders don't make them sort of mistakes.... That heat 4 incident ruined the whole event..... If Lamberts knee is that fragile it should have been strapped before either meeting. I've seen Briggs win the World championship with a broken hand, Kenny Carter win the British Championship with a broken leg, Its all about making decisions on doing what you want to do. You say you didn't hear any bad comments last night, well I didn't hear any good comments. Most of the people I spoke with was so embarrassed of the whole affair..... There wasn't ONE good thing come from last night meeting, all that will be remembered are the bad bits......

Buster never meets anybody half way.....

Wow!! what a fiesco, Where does one start. This scenario was always going to happen, and unlike others I blame Buster for it all. Apparently, it was known MPT wasn't ever available because of prior commitments, but the fans should have been told. Arranging a double header against the same team was mindless, knowing if there were problems in the first meeting, there wasn't a third team ready to get rider replacement from. Had our second match been against say Belle Vue, we could have co-opted Wolves riders to fill any gaps, So it was a dreadful idea... With both teams down to 6 men, neither could afford any mishaps, yet for the first 6/7 races the track was so deep, every race was an accident waiting to happen. Race 1; Jorgensen goes out wide and locks up, race over. Race 2; Greaves in second chasing Porsing goes out wide and pulls a real lock-up. he all but stops, Auty coming into the corner after driving inside Riss has no where to go and cluttered into Greaves. Nasty pileup. All 3 down, Fortunately all were OK and able to continue. Imagine had they been unable to continue!!!. Race 3 Huckenbeck lifts and gift Thorssell the points.. Race 4 : Wolves rider gets a massive roller, leaving THJ to chase hard. going in turn 3 he does a massive 360 leaving Porsing nowhere to go. bad crash. and Porsing retires with concussion.. THJ to is injured .,.. Race 5: is gate an go, riders staying on the white line. As the meeting continues THJ eventually pulls out as well. After heat 6 Buster again does extended track work and from then on the track is good with some good racing. but by then we are down to 4 riders and 12 points adrift and as a match it is all but over. So this 'Poor me' attitude that Buster gives over the mIc is wasted on me. I blamed him for all the problems... Words fail me about Lambert, Had he been the Captain, deserting his duty, when his ship was going down he would be jailed for life. The thought of walking out on his mates/ Club in their hour of need should never have entered his head. The fact that it did just shows off his selfish mentality. The fact his team were in dire straits didn't matter to him in the slightest... Cant see him winning a lot of fans acting like he did.... Last night , not only did we lose 2 matches, we lost a lot of respect, we lost a lots of support. It was wrong the fans had to watch so many 3 man races, it was wrong to expect them to stay when a referee could have made a sensible decision. After last night our sport is all but dead...... Josh Auty and Jorgensen need a special mention. they were exceptional, What a pity Lambert wasn't made the same way.....

One has to imagine its a lot more difficult now with these high revving bikes. When the bikes were more controllable it was easier to assist your partner riding side by side, blocking attempts to pass. Now it has to be done going flat out, else not, the rider behind will pick you off with his superior speed. I've seen 2 riders on totally different paths going well and people referring to this as team riding, But its just two riders taking up more of the track doing their own thing. Last week against Leicester Robert Lambert was involved in 4 , 5-1's, but each time it was follow the leader going flat out wide in the dirt. It wasn't team riding merely going too quick to be caught. Like you say, team riding now is very difficult to achieve and is becoming a dying art....

Unfortunately, we don't have that luxury !!

This is where Lambert has to come to the party. I know its a lot to put on young shoulders, but if he want to be considered the next British superstar, if he want to be a proper captain and No1, he has to start winning these races more regularly ...

It is so wrong to tar everyone with the same brush. I have real bad opinion of Holder and Batchelor, caused through their bad attitude, but that's not to say all Aussies are that way.. I hope not anyway....

I can see the time is early morning, but are you sure you're not still asleep and dreaming . Lightening usually will only strike once..... I think both meetings will be close, with heats 13 & 15 being decisive. We win them . we win the meeting, if we don't , we lose... As much as I like watching this new found spirit in the club, I don't think we are strong enough to create an upset in the PO's. I can see us only being easy fodder for the winning team on a home and away basis. For that reason only, as much as I like to win, tonight, it's not that important... To see good racing, will be all the satisfaction I need ..... I'm pleased we are riding at home tonight and I only have 12mls to go for my bed. By the time you Wolves fans get home , its going to be well late.......

I'm amazed Olly Allen hasn't been asked to step up and be Team maanger, even if only while Dale is off ill. Having a different one each meeting is not the way to go. and Buster showed Last night TM is not something Buster does well..... I thought Olly would be a fantastic choice....

For years BSPA have made decisions to suit individual clubs. Surely the time is right to make decisions that benefit the sport. Running both leagues on the same day creates so many problems for fixture planning.

As predicted, this was never going to be the massacre many Swindon fans forecasted. The spirit of the club was always going to stop that happening. The biggest difference between the two clubs tonight was the No1's. Doyle, majestic as ever, never looked like losing, whereas Lambert is so hit and miss. He needs to make that step up in consistency and be a reliable captain. 15pts last week was brilliant, but 5 points tonight was a massive let down. When you consider he was one of our lowest scores tonight, you realise we could easily have made this even closer. This new Lynn side is enthusiastic and exciting. but they all need to perform and score points, if we are to be competitive. This format dictates that matches are decided by winning the big heats. If our big riders, cant win those big heats, all the effort shown in the others is wasted. One final thought: Had we swapped No1's tonight we would have won with ease........... (Joke time): Buster, showed tonight he is probably the worse Team Manager in the league. He missed most of the decisions he should have made. I have always thought, the only race when a rider should go off 15mtr is a reserve race. The only reason I could think of missing these decisions were that Buster didn't want to mess his program up....

Batchelor, supposingly injured, rode for Swindon at Bellevue the night following the Lynn/Poole match and scored double figures. Days later he guested again for Swindon against Leicester ( the tele meeting) and again top scored. When he next rode for Lynn (against Leicester) he insulted the Lynn fans by the way he casually rode round at the back each race scoring just 4pts, and beating only one opponent in one of his races. Now you say he hasn't done anything wrong ??? I say he insulted the Lynn Club by his perpetual behaviour.

Yeah, Sidney, so did I... In them days I use to go to all the big meetings.... Stupid or What ?? I appreciated now, how fortunate I was to have a good wife, who stayed at home looking after the kiddies.. So she keeps telling me....

I'm sorry if I come under your childish category , but that was my thinking of your comments, for ' Buster bashing'. I didn't think the track was too bad , until it started to rain. But I don't race the bikes, only look at the races... But my philosophy is, if one rider can race it so should the rest. There is a lot of talk about Lambert and Huckenbeck not going out to race, but this was only because the ref refused to go down to the pits to sort out the problem. I thought the ref was wrong to exclude them both before he went to investigate the issues. Once he went down to meet the riders, surely he should have re-instated them seeing that the ref was the reason for not going to the gate in the first instance. Bearing mind the other issues surrounding Lynn officials I believe Lambert was in a no-win situation. At least he resumed the racing with the others once the remedy work had been done. PS. I'm no team hater, But I dislike Holder and Batch with a vengeance for the way they have behaved this year. Probably the worst signings the Stars have ever made...

Well, of cause you would!!! You are obviously another Buster hater. ... Hindsight is a wonderful thing. The Norfolk arena was used 3 times for different applications the week prior to the Poole match. New shale had arrived just before. Situations are not as black and white as you may think... What ever the state of the track, does not justify Holder and Batch's walkout. What needs to be remembered here, the times recorded in the first 3 heats were the quickest we had seen for 9 years.... So the track couldn't have been so bad.....

One of the best VHS I've got is when it was 'pissing' down at Coventry, when Kenny Carter won the British Champs with a dodgy leg. I loved that meeting for all the wrong reasons. Even in the adverse conditions the crowd was massive, Some of the riders threw their toys out pram not wanting to ride, while others showed application was everything. Dave Lanning was superb commentator, Speedway as it use to be... But the last heat was brilliant with Carter coming from the back beat the Collins bros. Lovely memories....

The chances are we will be beaten tonight, but the two meetings you need to worry about are next week , Wednesday at Poole and the return the next day at Lynn. Then we'll see the benefit of us not having agent Holder in camp.

It would be unfair to label the problems of that Poole match to lack of track preparation. We all are aware the problem was caused by using new shale that didn't mix with that we use to have. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and I'm sure Buster wouldn't have gambled, had he been aware of the problem. We had moaned for some time about the Gate and go racing and blamed it totally on the shale. But since that Poole meeting, the racing has been much improved, and long my it continue. I would never label Buster with that lack of track preparation, I always think he spends too much time on the tractor... As with all issues surrounding materials, it is governed by cost, and affordability.

Sometimes you talk utter rubbish. You see everything black and white. Unfortunately life is not like that. The speedway in this country is in such a precarious position that Promotor and Riders need to be on the same side. Every argument and counter decision has a cost to bear, and usually its the promoter who has to foot the bill . Each called off meeting must cost thousands in lost revenue and payments, When Buster has a bust-up like the Poole match and with Rory last year, nobody wins, the disgruntled fans go home not having seen a match, the riders go home not earning a full package, but it is Buster who has to foot the bill. Now, surely even you can see the problems situation like this cause. How times have changed. Looking back to a Good Friday morning (March 1975) Kings Lynn were due to ride against Leicester, in the Border Trophy. During the night, and the following morning the Snow came. the roads were blocked, and some the riders failed to arrive. World Stars like Terry Betts, Trevor Hedge, Ray Wilson Dave Jessup all turned up ready to race. Team were made up with reserves but the show went ahead . There were never any thought of the meeting being cancelled. We had snow on the infield and round the boards but the rider just got on an rode. That day, 2000 people went home happy, having seen the introduction of the new sensation, Michael Lee. The riders today seem to forget the fans, yet without them there is no sport. The bust-up with Rory shouldn't have happened. Rory had just survived a horrendous life threatening accident, that no doubt played on his mind. probably he was the wrong man to ask? Had Rory been in Buster shoes, probably he would have thought differently. I sure Rory could have rode round slower to suit the conditions. The same with Holder and Batch, had they had thought about the fans, non of the trouble would have happened. As we have all seen, the fans are drifting away from the sport because of the contemptuous way they are treated. There're not many left, and while riders think they are bigger then the sport, the trend will continue. The sport has to put the fans first... and if that means riding in poor conditions then so be it.....

We will see !! Should maked decent tele.... I don't expect to win, but it won't be the walkover some predict....either....

Whatever the ins and outs of this fixture, it will be a tough ask for everyone. Be it the Riders,Track staff, the Medic, the Stewards, Shop and Bar Workers besides the fans. I don't suppose much thought has been given to the kiddies, but at least they don't go to school the next day.... Once upon a time a fixture against the all conquering Wolves would have had an air of inevitability about it , but our fortunes have changed of late, and we are now able to compete. I'm not saying we will definitely win, but I will say we will put up a fight. Whether we will or lose will depend on small margins, and that is what makes it interesting...... Would like to think we will get something from this extravagancer........

Firstly, I can assure you I'm not delusional in any way. I am well aware of Busters involvement in most of the arguments. Buster for one, is acutely aware that fans come through the gate, pay their money and expect to see speedway racing. The sport is not a charity and bills need to be paid . All issues, surrounding arguments with Buster, is normally related to the financial side of the business. If the promotions cant make the venture pay, then the club will close.... Argument with Riders like Schlein, Holder and Batch will always create conflict, them thinking only of themselves and all their arguments are centred around personal opinions, Never once do the fans come into their thoughts.... People like yourselves have short memories. It was Buster, who no doubt , footed the bills to bring each of these riders to Kings Lynn hoping their expertise would reap rewards for the club.,. I would imagine Buster has given them far more than they have given to the club. And yet you still think they did no wrong. I think it's time you woke up and see the real world. If British Speedway relied on the likes of the 3 mentioned above , our sport will be dead years ago....

There is no night in question. as you say.. I'm well aware of Buster's philosophy, and his argument with Rory, that he shared with all and sundry, But that doesn't excuse Schlein for his comments he has made. He cant use a impetuous argument with Buster as a be-all factor, for casting opinions about the club, after all the good things the people of Lynn speedway did for him. Fair enough, he may well have fallen out with Buster, but it was the supporters and fans who dug deep to help him in his time of need. Now, if you think Schlein is justified for giving them comments, my opinion of you is that your as selfish as that self opinionated Aussie...