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If only it was that simple !!.. An apology should be from the heart. you don't need someone to tell you he his sorry, you should be able to deduct how they feel that from their behaviour. Very few from Lynn came out with any credit from that Poole match, What a pity they didn't follow Poole's professional approach and conducted themselves in the right a proper way. I'm in no doubt who the main protagonists were, and yes I was pleased they were shown the door, Buster must take responsibility that day for a terrible prepared track. Don't forget, these loyal supporters had to stand about for over an hour waiting for that bloody tractor going round, That should never have happened.. After that fiasco, we then waited 3 weeks for another meeting,, Matches were called off on the strength of the weather forecast, when the night was actually rain free. The replacements were not of the quality one had hope for , but I understand the difficulty. These replacements became a problem when we had clashed meeting and they went missing, forcing us to ride half a team, Strange, it usual slipped their memory to inform their loyal fans of riders missing until they we had paid to get in. No one occasion, NPT was down to ride at No5, DWP then informed the forum , NPT was riding in Denmark with Porsing. Most of last year the supporters were kept in the dark, and treated like mushroom,,,, Non more so then those double headers. On both occasions we never had a full team for the first match, without adequate replacements or reserves to cover, any mishap would be catastrophic. Needless to say both second matches were an embarrassment, a pointless exercise. In that Wolves doubleheader 2nd meeting we attempted to compete with only 3 riders, we ran 8 heats with only one rider in and one without any rider at all. That's unforgivable.... We may have been offered a refund, but that was insulting . I felt offended by the offer. It would have been nice for someone to have seen the dire way the fans were treated and acknowledged the situation as it was. It would be nice to think it would never happen again, But as of yet, apart from bringing in Brundle, I don't see much change.. My one hope is that Brundle will be the Messiah, we desperately need....

I understand and agree with everything you wrote. The contempt, that the promotion showed towards their fans last year was beyond reproach, and any promotion worth its salt, should have placed the recovery and rectifying of any damaged done, the first jobs on their lists. To brush it under the carpet only compounds the damage that was done. Some of the posts persecuting your views are not worthy of a comment, they ought to know what you were referring too. . If they wish to bury their heads than so be it. But to me I live in the real world that can voice an opinion, without being ridiculed for it. I will still go to watch speedway for my own enjoyment. I under no pretence that I am a valued Stars supporter anymore, that elusion was killed off last year...

I find that difficult to comprehend. Surely Promoters and Managers would have their finger on the pulse and want see everything that is being written, false or otherwise... You can only bury you head for so long . Had a good read of the latest news from Nathan. Must say it ail sounds real positive. I understand the logic of it all but we won't be able to judge the effect until we see the results on the track.. Must say it was a good read......

I originally thought Andersen was on a 4 , but when looking in the S/S they had him down as a 5

Competition is always good when making progress. I understand you comment about TJ , who last year was a revelation. The reason I opted for Proctor was I feel he is more likely to make bigger strides than the other three, who have been competing at their acquired CMA, these past years. I'm not to say they won't improve, but I believe it will be harder for them to make them big steps that Proctor could make. . Proctor can go either way, very good or disastrously bad. I'm going for the positive and see him making up for all that lost time. One thing for sure, he'll give it everything.....

Its a big ask, but as Sean Connery said in the film 'Atonement' its do-a-ble. Assuming the league is going to be run on a similar program as last year, the first slot to fill has to be the 3rd heatleader. I've got Procter down for that , I'm sure he'll be able to up his scores, and together with Niels and Lambert we should be able to compete with most teams on the HL front. (apart from Poole and Leicester) . Our middle order riders of Jorgensen and team Lewis may not be the best in the league, but they are all decent gaters. That could be the defining difference helping them to win races. But it also enable us to have one of those 3 riding in the reserves, and that is a big plus. To me, Andersen is a massive gamble. From all accounts he is a talented young man who could go far, but not having ridden on any of the UK tracks before will be a big disadvantage. Its going to be a big learning curve for him, one that could make the difference of where Lynn finish up.... When you consider he comes into our team on an assessed score of 5, and there are a few decent riders out there on a 5, the promoters must have plenty faith that he will deliver... We wait with anticipation ..... Looking at the other team assembled, there are one or two that standout really strong, but the majority are of similar to Lynn with some strong riders and some not so strong. Yes I think we are capable of a top 4 finish, but to achieve that everyone has to play their part. When you have that belief, you can achieve anything...... ,

This was neither the time or the place. The fans forum is a doctored name for an event that used to be referred to as a supporters meeting. It is here where the new team members are introduced to the fans. This is usually a happy occasion, generating high hopes for the coming season. The last things they want to hear are individual gripes from the previous season. I did have a word with Buster after the meeting, but he wasn't in the mood to hear damning verdicts we may have had to say. His replies were short but his mood told me he was more than happy with how the evening had gone.

Assuming you were referring to me, I'm pleased I'm making you laugh...., Because there is not much making me laugh these days.... If you read my post there wasn't any moaning merely pointing out, that I will be there regardless of what happens on the track... I'm quite aware of the amount of work Buster does, I take my hat off to him, but it was his choice. He choose to be Chairman of the BSPA, hoping to make a difference , but he has since found out it was an impossible job. I'm sure he would have done a far better job at Lynn if he had donated all his time to the Stars cause.

Sidney, Martin Vaculik is a class rider. He'll be an immediate success. I just wish he'd sign for us instead of Leicester...

Careful, that's a lot of moaning gong on, and we cant be having that, but I agree with everything you say . I've given up on Lynn chasing any honours, for to do that we need a happy family all the season. Yes its all very well doing these bonding and fitness sessions creates a happy environment, but as soon as someone voices against Buster all hell breaks loose. I honestly don't think Buster is aware of the amount of fans dissatisfaction from last year, Speaking with him recently, his only comment was how much money he lost... I enjoy my Speedway racing, but gone are the days when I would tear all over the country cheering the lads on. So going down the road to watch them suits me fine. I'm under no illusion that the future will bring much of the same,. The Stars don't have the mentality to be winners. but that don't bother me. While I'm fit and able, I will continue watching the Stars. I'm not the kind of supporter Buster needs to attract, because I'm always there. He needs to appeal to new fans and families, and to do that he has to up his game considerably..... Anymore seasons like last year and he'll lose the few fans he has left.... Ahead, is a big season for Lynn Stars and Buster.... in more ways than you think.....

Y'know what they say about ' Little drop of water, little grains of sand' It could make all the difference . Assuming most riders are reasonably fit, it is the bonding, created by these sessions together, that will make the biggest dividends. Who knows, this could be the impetus the riders need to motivate them to that next step. All the riders are capable of increasing the averages, some more than others. but good team bonding is worth points every match....

I have to admit the article in the SS is not good reading. It appears BE have all bases covered.. Hopefully, the planners don't base their decisions on the viability of just one sport .

The few times that happens is annoying, but we have no control over nature . Probably supply riders with tinted shades would lessen the hazard . Usually the problem only lasts for 4/5 races so riders would only be affected twice at most... I'm sure thinking along them lines would be better than doing nothing....

This is what I dislike about the Play--off idea. With Wolves two swedes injured, the final was but a mockery and bared little resemblance of the season as a whole. For this Play-off idea to have any credit at all. why not let the teams in the PO carry the points gained through the season and add onto them. At least this way the winner then would be the team that deserves it most, and wont be determined by accidents and/or injured riders..

Remind me to tell you about the day us same four went to the Motor Show at Earls Court, or the day we went to Cadwell Park, better still how about Mallory and Scarborough. Barrie Sheene lived in our village for a few years and liked nothing better than mixing with us mere yokels.... Sheene's farmhouse joined on to George's Smallholding. he was herald a hero by the people never having a celebrity in their midst before or since..... so please don't doubt the reality of it all.

I suppose we have all done a bit in our time, but not without cause...... To me the idea of promoting is to keep everyone happy. Prompt start; good progress, Little hold-up with Fans involvement all the way, A little bit of banter, coupled with exciting races and the time would simple fly by. Probably minors racing after a short interval would keep some punters back. to have a drink and a bite. Everyone don't want to go home early. The point being, when youngsters are at school the next day, they want to finish early and get home. Hanging a meeting out is enough to put families off from coming next time.... We have to start thinking of the bigger picture, instead of money being the end of all decisions... Wouldn't it be better, when someone enquired about the speedway last night , the reply was: Yeah, it was a good night, exciting racing and we were home by 9, instead of : They dragged that meeting out, we stood there in the freezing cold watching that bloody tractor go round and round, the racing was rubbish and we didn't get back till gone half 10... Wish I'd stayed in and watched the tele... Which reply promotes a better picture........

Well I'm so glad you weren't referring to me, cos I'm one of the few that go to every meeting. Yes, I have posted negative comments, but I have also posted positive ones as well . You seem to have an issue when people voice their opinions that you class as moaning, I suggest you except them for what they are and stop trying to being judge and jury. Let me inform you, of all the years I've supported the Stars, last years was one of the worse I can remember, and they deserved all the negative comments they received..... Yes, I was disappointed when the team was named, because I wanted better. That said, I will still support them EVERY meeting and hope they can do well. When they do good I will be the first to say so, when they do , not so good, I will also say so as well. That's not MOANING, that's the attitude of a real supporter... I am still to be convinced about the new partnership with Brundle. I was hoping he would be the top man making all the decisions, with Buster taking that back seat, but as time passes he appears to be behind the scenes doing the promotional side. Nothing would please me more than to see the Stars up there with the best. But to do that we need strong leaders, positive attitudes, as well as the quality to win when it matters.. We need Brundle to create all of this.... I live in hope, but I'm been saying that now for over 50yrs ....

I spoke about the day I went to see a British Final, 4 of us, one of whom was Barrie Sheene. Travelled in his roller, we were ushered into the pits Car Park area . Within minutes we were surrounded, 100's wanting to speak and have their photo taken with him. it was manic.. I looked round to my friend and said whose idea was this? we decided to get out of the car and leave. Co-pilot George asked where will we be, back straight was the reply and we left them to it.. About an hour later, heat 6, George and Barrie found us, we exchanged a few views as heat 7 started. During the race I notice the number of fans looking round and noticing Barrie. they in turn were pointing him out to their friends and before long the adulation starts all over again. This was the first day that we experienced first hand the problems with being well known. We took our leave again hoping to see more of the Speedway Final.. That day we moved around more than any other time in an effort to escape all the fuss.. We were fortunate to be able to do that, but Barrie just excepted is as his norm. Never once did I see or hear him rubbish those fans... Brilliant Chap, and a Terrible loss... Brilliant times and wonderful memories..

Done.

When our friends from Poland sees what averages they are on here , it must show them, when it come to running a competitive Speedway League, we haven't got a clue... And people wonder why the fans don't come anymore....

Why would they want to bin them off, Both riders are way better than their out of date averages and will each, easily put 2 points on their score. This situation could only happen in this country. where out of date averages are accepted as the norm... The issues this practise creates, is that it give the fortunate clubs who get them, a massive advantage when assembling their team. It is not known whether Poole would have selected the 2 Poles, had they been on a accessed 6 average, but if they had, they would not have been able to include Sundstrom in their side.,. It has the same effect as giving Poole 4 extra points to play with.... The mind boggles........

I always felt the Australians have a bond of togetherness, not always evident from other countries. Probably because they are a long way from home and cant just pop back when they want, for whatever reason this togetherness stretches back years.... When considering their small population, I am amazed at the number of quality sportspeople they have. It doesn't matter what sport we talk of their percentage of high quality far out weighs other countries. We at Lynn have been really fortunate seeing some wonderful talent, first stopping here to further their careers. Just a pity many only used it as a stop gap before moving on. To many, Darcy Ward stands out of an impressive list, but to me Phil Crump was head and shoulders above them all. Back in 1972, there wasn't the influx of top riders as there are these day, Maury Littlechild, who was also in charge of Crewe as well as Lynn , introduced Phil into the Stars line up to compliment the Betts, Simmo and Cole heat leader partnership. in a hope of bringing that long awaited league success . The effect was immediate. he was outscoring the more established stars from the oft. In only his first or second meeting he score a 15pt max his talent was there for all to see. Unfortunately he didn't stay very long, Neil Street, helped by his daughter, persuaded him to join Newport the following year. Out of sight probably, but never out of mind. He had a tremendous talent that was complimented by the relationship of future 'father-in-law' Neil Street, Crumpy went from strength to strength. I know he didn't win that world Championship, but he was always there or there abouts. When Jason came on the scene it was only fitting that he continued the Crump and Street upbringing, to bring home the big one. Seeing Jason riding them boards was so remmonissant of his dad all them years ago.... Remembering these wonderful times, really does gives me a warm feeling

I wish I had the same feelings as you all, for I too thought Brandon was a special place and iconic to our sport. But forgive me for being cynical, but whatever chance the stadium had, of carrying on Speedway and StockCars, has long gone. From my experience years, when you see situations like this, all the hopes have been extinguished before the project even started. I am in no doubt Brandon Estates had everything in place before they brought the stadium. We're talking big money developments, developments that will gross massive profits. They wouldn't be speculating unless they were assured of the final outcome. Be it from back-handers, illegal payments or even blackmail , they wouldn't be spending hundreds and thousands of pounds on plans and professional people unless they had the reassurances in place before it even started. That's the ways top businesses work. They will be expected the objection process to show up, but for it to change anything, the battle has to be fought along similar lines as they have done. with high profile and name and shame those who are benefitting. Make the public aware of the underhanded goings on. Its probably too late for that now.... Its such a pity, that when the BSPA received that television money from Sky, they didn't use it for more creditably and purchase somewhere like Brandon that they could call their own.. My first visit to Brandon was in 1970 . Compared to the wooden run-down premises we had at Lynn at that time, this was the pinnacle of our sport. But time has really taken its toll. These last few years it is embarrassing how little work had been done and it has been left to decay, its now only a sad reflection of the place it once was. Cant help thinking this has played right into the Developers hands..... Really sorry for these bad thoughts !!!

Even if the BSPA done 'Common Sense ' because of the numbers involved, Premiership clubs are of secondary importance. Our sport is now ruled by the Second division and they wont imply any rules that are detriment to their operation. What a Joke......

Agree, they're are 6 points per race but the better riders would score more of them and the lesser rider would lose out, So you cant look at the CMA to evaluate a stronger or weaker league...