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I am in Stockholm on the 25 th April, can anyone tell me is there any racing there that weekend ? i know it is expensive in Sweden does anyone know the cost roughly thanks.

DId Mike Bast have a few practice laps at Wimbledon once? he so nearly signed for them.I also have a feeling i might be wrong? that two other established USA riders Alan Christian(could of been top class) and Jim Fishback had a few spins at a few tracks.I think Christian? might of had a spin at the Abbey.

i am really looking forward to tomorrow night,it should be a close encounter i think it could be a narrow away win.The Bees fans must be hopeful of a decent season a solid 1_7 line up but Hansen is the key for me he will decide what sort of season they have.I am looking forward to seing young Serjeant ride he has made huge strides in his career.The Bees have a strong reserve pairing, this could be the difference if Garrity is fit he will have a good season he has impressed me was excellent in last years British Final.

The BLRC victories to my mind were Carters greatest achievement forget the team medals Lee also won a few of them.1982 to me was easily Lee's worst year in speedway but up to then from 1977 he had averaged 10 plus in the BL i think in 82 he averaged about 9.70.Also you have to remember how many individual meeting's Lee won over the years quite a few and some big titles so there he would get the edge.Your stats and theory are spot on and i respect your knowledge of the sport but i cannot agree about Carter in 82 that version in my mind was never superior to Lee of 1980 and 1983.In 82 the record book says Carter failed the pressure of the world final got to him he didn't even have to beat Penhall in that race he could of maybe? waited for a run off.The biggest point though that none of us have ever mentioned is RESPECT i know Lee has had grave problems in his life but as far as i know as a rider and person he is respected and liked.Kenny never had that he never earned that respect was his own man and often had disregard for others sometimes reckless and dangerous as a rider after all that i did enjoy watching him ride and he was hell of a rider.

Did you just have a wet dream? get real.

Lee was placed in the 83 British final where was Carter ? Lee was placed in the 83 BLRC where by then Lee was the only brit to be able to beat the big two Danes Lee piddled all over NIelsen in the pride of the east he got the track record. that night. Carter was never good anough to do that.Lee was placed at Norden where was Kenny ? also Lee piddled all over Carter in the helmet that was fact i liked Carter rated him but Lee's overall cv record is there there in black and white Carter never had the chance to prove otherwise.

You are spot on in your analysis,but i stlll believe Lee's best in 83 was better than anything Carter ever achieved in the 80s.The Golden helmet proved this both riders motivated and in the two legs Lee murdered him.As you have said World Final records well that is a no contest on records the only thing Carter had the upper hand in was the BLRC and even then Lee has been placed himself.

Does it matter that much " Iris? do we have to stick to the letter of the law it is only a discussion and a bit of banter. Ah new he won a top individual meeting was these averages around the time of the handicap racing? Briggo said he disliked it i know Peter Craven rode regularly giving handicaps.

"Gustix" you post what you like my friend,i am interested in your recollection of that period now it would be interesting from 1965.If i am right i think Charlie Monk was top of the averages in 1965 and did he win the Wills International.?

I was looking through my old programmes and was surprised on how many national league meetings i attended.I always enjoyed watching that league and see some great entertainment over the years what a decent product it was.Who were people's all time top five riders? and another top five who were they're favourites here goes.Didnt include Lee,Carter, both Crump's and Tiger Louis. 1.Joe Owen( the king) also did well in the BL 2.Tom Owen. 3. John Jackson. 4.Steve Lawson. 5. Laurie Etheridge. My favourite all time five riders in the NL were Malc Holloway, Mark Courtney, Pete Jarman,Paul Woods and Bob Humphreys.

Thats why he is in the GPs with a chance of being world champion, god you do talk total bollocks.

A comfortable home win,Ellis has started great i think at least a 8 to 10 point home win.

Nothing wrong with his ears, by the way he is world champion something MJJ will never achieve he might not even be good anough to be a GP regular Woffinden i am not a fan but he is good for the sport media savvy and will appeal to the younger generation.

Isn't it funny most of the other club threads barely mention about winning most of us hope the sport gets back on track and everybody enjoys our great sport is WINNING everything? surely not.

Nowt wrong Chalkie by getting it wrong i DID i was bitter and twisted was really looking forward to tonight.I would say i hope this is not a trend where decisions are made to early on forecasts they were right tonight but they have also got it wrong.

I never ever saw Knudsen as a dirty rider, he was tough but lets get thing's right so was Hans.Knudsen for me was up there with Jessup ( ect as very unlucky not to be champion.Even when Knudsen came back from that serious back injury he was still a force he was never frightened of Nielsen his head to head record like ERIK in all competitions was pretty good he beat him Hans as i can remember in quite a few heat 1s.I just felt Hans up until 86 had been really frustrated had been a tad unlucky i admit but he was so lucky to stay in with Knudsen excluded.To his credit Hans went on and got his just rewards a great pro and i began to like him more later on in his career( still not as good as Ole though in my humble my opinion.!)

In Stratton three miles away from the stadium, it has absolutely pi...d down the right call i am gutted because i was really looking forward to tonight.

You must be in the minority then Rob,i know you were a Hans fan but he was so lucky not to be excluded in the Knudsen incident.Hans had a record of panicking and making the wrong move in finals and this was one of them he later rectified it and went on to become a great champion.

I agree Bruiser apart from the odvious the Wards,NKI and say another dozen or so riders is this league that much better than the PL.Such a shame as we were once the powerhouses now we are a after thought for most.I except it and just hope the racing is good and that makes up for it after all i have seen quite a few Conference matches and have enjoyed them as well.This Brum side has really hit home to me how watered down the league is and i also believe this new race FORMAT will become tiresome for most of us over a period. Thanks TNT for even letting us know about the young PAWLICKI, i am sure some would of been gutted to turn up then find out he is not riding at least people know beforehand the situation.If i was a Wolves fan you might be disappointed he misses a few fixtures but you are very lucky i believe,hopefully you will see this young talent ride a few times.From what i hear when he has rode in Britain before he is totally committed as dedicated as his brother and is terrific entertainment value at Poole two seasons ago he made some stunning passes.

I would like to see Poole ride once a month at the Abbey as i am sure the Swindon promotion would do to always a great crowd a great atmosphere revenue also.!The clever planning of the Poole team this year gives them a option i believe they're starting line up is the best Millik is the key.I think he will do very well if someone underachieves they can maybe ? make a change (ie Chris) is available and can fit him in.

Only a challenge i am not that bothered it will be nice to see Chris ride as we will see Darcy on the 18th.

i am not so sure Cremorne,i can't see us winning alot away so our home form is so important we shall see.

What are people's true expectation with this team? i would like to know what Robins fans think and what is a realistic target?

I am trying not to be to negative, but this Birmingham side looks poor unless changes are made bottom 2 minimum.